Well said!  I suppose another perspective is that if we buy the Televantage 
switch and glean the experience of working with a T1, we could then use 
that to build a  * switch for our message service and connect the two 
together thru SIP.  Does anyone consider * reliable enough for mission 
critical work, say processing 911 calls?  That's where it might get a bit 
scary. 
Can't be worse than the ancient PBX and DID line terminators we're running 
with now though.  Its only a five position call centre so that's a case for * 
AFAIK.

Regards,
Peter M.

> The Defence:
> To the defence, we need to ignore trash talk of salesman such as the 
> Televantage 
> guy, be aware of insecure sales dudes such as him, and move on & investigate 
> other 
> companies that are more professional in speech & more sensitive to your 
> business 
> needs & other prospects. We need to do business with companies that "listen" 
> vs. 
> talk talk talk and do business with companies that are open to change. Sure 
> it's 
> toughto stay up to date with technology & other Open Source technologies, but 
> it'sVERY dangerous to stand still and do nothing.
> 
> The Message:
> Your message is simple proof that sales trash talk travels faster than the 
> speed of 
> light, and degrades the reputation of companies such as Televantagewhen their 
> first 
> line of defence is not very professional. I commend you forposting the 
> bluntly 
> honest message & openly sharing this with us, which has been received by over 
> 100+ Asterisk enthusiasts, some of whom are using the technology to generate 
> revenue. Had* not been open source, this telecom consulting opportunity would 
> not 
> have been possible for the enthusiasts and the little guys that do not have 
> multi-
> millions of dollars as backup.
> 
> The Suggestion:
> My only suggestion is that us hardcore Asterisk supporters be aware of other 
> VOIP 
> technologies & educate our prospects and clients with * & related products, 
> eventually allowing the customer to make a decision.Chances are they will go 
> for 
> the Asterisk solution when we speak so passionately about it - and the fact 
> of the 
> matter is that Asterisk for small to medium business settings, is likely the 
> most 
> flexible & reasonable solution. The other fact hard for larger companies to 
> bite is 
> that * is gaining STRONG ground!
> 
> The Lesson Learnt:
> From this Televantage Trash talk, we also have a good lesson to learn and 
> that is we 
> must always be sensitive to our clients needs. If we trash talk about a car, 
> chances 
> are he is driving or planning to purchase the make & model of the car we are 
> trashing :).
> 
> The answer:
> "So why would he say that his programming group had to do $35000 worth of 
> custom 
> programming to get a PRI working in Halifax NS? "
> To call someone a liar or incompetent, is a very strong and harsh word. So I 
> will say 
> he either does not know what he is talking about, or his programming group is 
> not 
> very knowledgeable, or he simply wants to show off that he is a hotshot. 
> Maybe all 
> the above.
> 
> The Question:
> Who's next? Who dare trash Asterisk?
> 
> Cheers!
> Reza.
> 



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