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>>>>> "Chad" == Chad Osmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Chad> My feelings are that it's just SIP based though, and may work
    Chad> with asterisk with some work.

  Or, it's MGCP, which is much easier to make "incompatible", and in
which case, it's totally insecure. 
  (Why not? AT&T "TalkBroadband" uses MGCP)

>>>>> "Alex" == Alex Robar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
    Alex> I would agree with Chad here. It's much like the Primus
    Alex> TalkBroadband service. They'll tell you it's not possible, but
    Alex> if you sniff the connection you can find your login
    Alex> information. After that, it's just a matter of spoofing the

SIP was designed so that this won't work.
This is in fact the *MAJOR* security hole in MGCP.

The cable companies listened to the IETF about MGCP, when the IETF said
"run it over IPsec". The CableLabs approved specification for doing this
is that the ATA does a simplification of IKE/KINK (Kerberos is directly
to key the IPsec SA. This means no PFS), and that's what the ATA uses to
talk IPsec to the call concentrator.

>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Kohlsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
    Andrew> They clearly don't see the light; why give them your money?

What he said.
Vote with your wallet.

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