I can't say specifically for this case, but as for the Cisco box, I've seen
this type of thing before.  Say, for instance, the carrier mandates that the
edge (demarc) device be a Cisco box of their choosing for management
purposes.  They can often ask the client to pay for this.  Client doesn't
have access to manage it so they put a Linksys box on it to take the single
IP they're given by the provider and NAT it.

As for the price of the box, that seems a bit high.  I guess you're really
looking at a $200 machine with, what, $1000 (retail) worth of cards in it,
and 8 x $250 for high end phones.  If the installer used Bell's roughly 100%
markup on hardware, you're looking at no more than $6000 for hardware.

Depending on how complex the professional services were, how many changes
the client made along the way etc, you'd have you decide whether the rest is
justified.   Professional services can be a big chunk of these projects.

That's my take on it, for what it's worth.

Dave

On 4/5/07, Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Now you are talking :).   Yes, the $25,000 dollar question is why the *
box did not have a T1 card in the first place, if in fact the folks are
thinking to expand into greater work force.

Cheers!

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Peng Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Cc:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Thursday, April 05, 2007 6:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: [on-asterisk] Cisco 1700 and Most expensive Asterisk
Platform.

it's an interesting one. why dont' they just use a T1 in the * box?

tks
peng


On 4/5/07, Mark Borg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Perhaps this was 'for future capacity' and /or the needs changed mid-way
> through the install... or this person is some wicked kind of  sales
> type...
> it would have been interesting to hear the pitch to the client.
>
> On Thu April 5 2007 17:02:04 Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast wrote:
> > Nope.  Not at all...   T1, CSU/DSU,  Cisco1700,  Linksys, Refurb P3
> w/512
> > MBRam, 8x SIP phones.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Reza.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Peng Li
> >   To: Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast
> >   Cc: TAUG
> >   Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 4:48 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Cisco 1700 and Most expensive Asterisk
> > Platform.
> >
> >
> >   HI Reza,
> >
> >   Do you mean that Cisco 1700 runs an Asterisk with a P3 chip inside
> as a
> > submodule?
> >
> >   tks
> >   peng
> >
> >
> >   On 4/5/07, Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >     Can anyone advise me why one would want to use a Cisco 1700
> connected
> > to a T1 -- in a fairly new implementation and billed the client $1500
> for
> > the 1700?     And if you were the conslutant, why would you want to
> connect
> > a $50 Linksys router to the 1700 in the first place?
> >
> >     I've been called in as an expert witness to give my unbiased
> analysis,
> > and I have my theories.  However I also want to accompany my opinion
> with
> > other Asterisk & Cisco veterans here before I'm called to testify as
> an
> > independent/neutral party.
> >
> >     Adds to the interesting twist I've seen one of the MOST EXPENSIVE
> > asterisk machines running on a P3 machine (never mind the
> configurations)
> > -- which has 2, 4 port Digium Cards -- sold for $25,000+ fairly
> recently.
> > Heck if I sold a P3 for that much, I'd make sure the client got
> customer
> > service ABOVE AND BEYOND!
> >
> >     Cheers!
> >     Reza.
>
>
>
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