I've brainstormed this a few times with Leif and Andrew. If I recall, the problems we anticipated were MWI (which now appears to be solved) and file/message management (which is still a potential problem, especially if we want to do it all in the dialplan).
Solve that, and the dialplan work doesn't seem so daunting. It'd be pretty cool to be able to release something that people could build on. A dialplan-based voicemail would allow people to modify the voicemail to emulate their favorite traditional voicemail system. I picture some sort of central repository that contains packages of various voicemail types; all community-built. Off the top of my head, here are some things that we'd need to figure out. - how do we track messages? I log in, have 20 messages in my INBOX. I want to delete message 3, 7 and 15. What happens when I log out? -- can I undelete in the same session? (in other words, don't delete the message until I log out) -- when I listen to a message, it can't move from the INBOX to Old unless one of two events happen: -- 1) I move it manually -- 2) I log out -- when I move it, it has to be re-numbered And so on. Frankly, I don't think that we should be a slave to the way asterisk does things, but just trying to replicate the current functionality helps to understand the file management challenges. Perhaps we have to use the database, but the masochist in me wants to see if it can be done in the dialplan. Since the most popular voicemail system in North America is Octel (unless something huge has changed since I last checked), it may be that this is the system we should select as our first effort. (not sure how the copyright works on that, so we'd better call it CrocTel or something). I found a user guide online that would serve as a pretty good starting point for the user features we'd want to emulate. Google for 'octel user guide' and the first link has a PDF that'll get us started. The Octel system is really quite a bit more flexible than that, so we may want to compare a few user guides. I can write this up into something that's not a PDF if you want. We can then work through it and decide what to prioritize. Jim -- Jim Van Meggelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2177 "A child is the ultimate startup, and I have three. This makes me rich." Guy Kawasaki -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Mullis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: July 24, 2007 10:39 PM > To: Jim Van Meggelen; Simon P. Ditner > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] replacing app_voicemail > > Any suggestions for a draft on what would make up a great > replacement :) im willing to start stabing at some coding. > > Regards > > Philip Mullis > > > ________________________________ > > From: Jim Van Meggelen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue 7/24/2007 10:31 PM > To: 'Simon P. Ditner' > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] replacing app_voicemail > > > > That MWI bit is pretty handy, and makes the concept worth > looking at again. > > But message management is still a problem. Asterisk doesn't > really have much for working with files. > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Simon P. Ditner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: July 24, 2007 8:55 PM > > To: Jim Van Meggelen > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] replacing app_voicemail > > > > Hi Jim, > > > > It's very easy. There are really only three parts: > > - MWI, which can be taken care of with a short script [1] > > - voicemail -> email; again, very easy to do with a short > > Perl/Python/PHP script > > - IVR design for message management > > > > The actual implementation is a couple hours of writing > dialplan, and > > debugging the routing. > > > > [1] http://asterisk.mdaniel.net/?p=14 > > > > On 7/24/07, Jim Van Meggelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Have any brave souls out there tried replacing app_voicemail.so? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jim Van Meggelen > > > Core Telecom Innovations > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > www.coretel.ca > > > 416-425-6111 x6001 > > > 877-CORETEL x6001 (Canada) > > > IAX2:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/6001 > > > www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2177 > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: > > > 23/07/2007 > > > 7:45 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For > additional > > > commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > | It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. 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