Interesting! My sister has one... and my friend has one... (iPhone)... took them less than 10 minutes to put it on their desired GSM network (was unlocked for my sis). My sis is in the States. My friend is local to Toronto (who went to the States to get one)... they haven't had problems regardless of contradictory concerns -- and in fact, me being the Apple basher, I was quite impressed with the iPhone and OS X to be quite honest... and I'm almost a convert! The ability of having a soft phone connect to your favorite voip server/service is amazing.
There are hundreds of sellers in the US, both on eBay and at real physical shops selling iPhones... and yes UNLOCKED units. It was as easy as my sister walking into a store in Pasadena and buying one. Can you also point me to the source where it says Canadian carriers will be breaking their contracts (with Apple) -- if they allow iPhones on their network? My argument here is how would they be breaking a contract when they don't have a contract with Apple anyway ? After all ... it is to the consumer, and left to the consumers choice which phones they decide to use. The beauty of SIM Cards & GSM phones is the mobility and transition factor -- meaning you can easily take the sim card out, insert in into a different phone -- and you have the new phone running almost instantaneously, without having to call tech support. Have you used the iPhone yourself personally to conclude that the phone is going to be bricked? I'd appreciate some technical feedback on this if you have any. OpenMoko seems to be an interesting phone -- but at this point I'm more interested in the functionality as was the original poster of the thread -- than to hack a phone. I understand why it can be tempting for an engineer/developer. However the ability to have Asterisk running on the OpenMoko would interest me greatly. Regrettably I cannot be at the Linux fest -- so may be you may want to consider a talk for the TAUG group? The first time I used GSM phones was over 10 years ago -- and I regret it took Canadian Carriers a while to introduce GSM on their network. Cheers! Reza. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Darwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "TAUG" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: [on-asterisk] Freedom to explore and modify the cell phone world (was: Re: Nice phone with WiFi and QWERT) > I'm almost about to get me an iPhone -- but your HTC Tytn II also looks > interesting. How long does your battery last on this? That is not the > theoretical time... I mean your real practical time. Reza, Don't buy an iPhone :-) If you like Asterisk for its openness, you'll feel perennially fenced in by Apple's greed and closedness. Not to mention that you can't legitimately use one with a Canadian carrier yet (without becoming a contract breaker), and you know the bad things Apple will do if you use a 3d-party unlocker - they go out of their way to brick your phone when you apply the critical software patches for their insecure code. As it happens :-) I am giving a presentation on the OpenMoko phones which are unlocked(!) and offer the same kind of freedom to explore and modify the cellular world that Asterisk does in the PBX world. The next version (due in a month or two) have WiFi, and all have a touch or soft keyboard as does the iPhone. My talk is in two days, this Saturday, at Linux Fest - http://onlinux.ca/. To those who read this in the archives after Saturday, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
