Hello Mike:

" As far as I'm concerned I feel the same today as I did the day it 
launched. Cool interface, but won't touch it with a ten foot pool due to the 
way they're locked it down, lock you to a carrier and are keeping third 
party apps locked out. Also I've heard a few complaints on battery life and 
the touch screen going flakey. Too many new components, maybe consider the 
next generation. That is if it isn't so locked down and after all the 
squabbling is over. Nah, wait for an OpenMoko phone. "

Well said!    "....... and are keeping third party apps locked out" -- is 
the only point that has convinced me from not getting one...  unless someone 
comes up with a way to do it!

Cheers!
Reza.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mike Ashton
To: [email protected] >> "Asterisk Group (E-mail)"
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Freedom to explore and modify the cell phone 
world




Duane wrote:
Ian Darwin wrote:


I agree, but this is exactly what Apple/AT&T are trying to prevent you
from doing with the iPhone, by attaching a binding entity called a
"contract" to every iPhone that is sold.


The whole apple/att/iphone situation never made any sense to me, if they
were serious about this they would have signed you up for an AT&T
contract at the same time.

The only way it makes sense to me, is if you think Apple, which bound by
contracts etc to AT&T still wants to make money selling devices and the
whole bricking thing is just them doing "something" to appear to care.

Right now in the US the only way to buy an iPhone is in conjunction with an 
AT&T contract (2yr min). Apple has done this since they are both selling the 
phone for a premium (well non subsidized) and receiving an ongoing share in 
the revenue AT&T receives from these contracts, since there was no cost 
recover required. My understanding is that Apple got a very sweet deal from 
AT&T, and in return AT&T got a 5 year exclusive deal.

The debate in the US is multi facited. One issue is the unlocking, which is 
technically legal under the Digital Millinium Act, but by doing it does not 
relieve you of your obligations to the 2 year contract even if you don't use 
it. Secondly is that as soon as you do it, you have breached the conditions 
of the contract under which the phone was aquired, and thereby voiding your 
warrantee and any support. The bricking is occurring to people who, have 
unlocked thier phone but not turned off the software updating, which under 
the terms of the contract Apple/AT&T are to do to keep your phone up to date 
and patched. The sneaky bit though is them causing the bricking.

The other squable is that no third party apps are to be installed on the 
phone, since Apple wants to control the delivery of content and ensure htey 
and ATT are not cut out of the loop. Now, this is no different then buying 
any other phone from say a Bell, where you have to buy your ringtones, etc 
from them. It's just getting alot more press due to the bricking.

As far as I'm concerned I feel the same today as I did the day it launched. 
Cool interface, but won't touch it with a ten foot pool due to the way 
they're locked it down, lock you to a carrier and are keeping third party 
apps locked out. Also I've heard a few complaints on battery life and the 
touch screen going flakey. Too many new components, maybe consider the next 
generation. That is if it isn't so locked down and after all the squabbling 
is over. Nah, wait for an OpenMoko phone.

My 2 cents


I guess this sort of thing worked for MS in the past, allow everyone to
copy your OS until it owns 90+ % of the market then go sue everyone into
compliance, cept apple won't get that kind of market share with all the
heavy weights already in place, and all the non-sense restrictions they
have in place.

It's too surreal to be even bizarre, does Apple have a clue about the
phone market or even a grasp on the world/reality beyond the ipod?

Then there was the whole price drop thing ticking off the early
adopters, you'd have to think twice about lining up for another Apple
product ever again and Apple should really send something special to
make up for it to those people.




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Mike Ashton

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