Gary, thanks for your comment. It is very very helpful.
Do you consider astlinux ready to be deployed in customer sites in PBX
only mode and with a maximum of 12 to 16 regular users in a small
office?


On 9/29/06, Gary G. Hendershot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Erick:
>
> If I understand correctly, you want to install Astlinux on a CF card but use
> a HDD as your "KeyDisk" for voicemail storage.  This is not a problem, I
> have done it and it works well.  In the end, I found that a 4gb USB thumb
> drive had more than enough space for my own voicemail needs so I decided to
> go that way to remove the moving parts from the equation.  But the install
> worked well with the hard drive.
>
> What you would do is install the CF reader as the MASTER IDE drive.  Then
> install the HDD as the SLAVE IDE drive (or the secondary IDE channel).  When
> you get the CF booting properly, run the GENKD utility against whatever
> designation the hard drive ended up with.  Could be something like "GENKD
> /dev/hdb" or maybe "GENKD /dev/hdd".  This is very similar to what you would
> do if you were using a USB thumb drive where you run the "GENKD /dev/sda"
> command.  The "FDISK -l" command will tell what Linux has recognized as
> avaialble drives so you can identify it.
>
> And actually, I have found some of the various rants about external FXO/FXS
> gateways of interest.  I will be in need of such very shortly and it is
> interesting to me to hear other folks experience with some of the various
> products out there.  I have never had to use anything more sophisticated
> than a Linksys PAP2 in the past, so I have found this discussion to be quite
> educational.
>
> G.Hendershot
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erick Perez
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:52 AM
> To: Discussion of AstLinux - Asterisk on Compact Flash
> Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] external Gateway vs PCI card [was: KeyDisk]
>
> Kristian, you haven't had time to play with Quintums right? They are as
> painful as AudioCodes.
>
> Tom,
> When I'm sure that my customer will not care to see extra boxes right next
> to the asterisk I go with external gateways all the time.
> External Gateways (EG) provide me with the following benefits:
> - EG Always have DSP chips implemented, some brands implement Octasic DSP
> chips, others utilize different manufacturers.
> - EG Provides the horsepower to mix and mtch codecs, and in case I need to
> do transcoding, a dedicated box is always better than a motherboard full of
> TDM400P -I need to make a special comment about EG and the need for channel
> banks. Here my choice is RedFone (http://www.red-fone.com/)  it is basically
> TDMoE and it helps me achieve several other things in terms of balance and
> redundancy.
>
> Since I am in Panama,Central America, the only thing we care when talking
> about brands are Clothes, Watches and Cars.
> If the customer has the money, we go for Cisco, Audicodes, Mediatrix,
> because we get them locally and they have a representation office.
> If the customer wants to start low and then go up then we use things like
> Quintum, Octtel or equiments from telecomchinasourcing. We need to order
> them from Asia, takes a long time to come here and we might have to have
> some stock in case of get a unit DOA.
>
> But to give you and example: Octtel 4 FXS, with onboard DSP,
> SIP,h323,IAX2 and some other nice things: US Dollars: 250.00 and the 8port
> FXS 450.00 both with 6 months warranty and full system exchange in case of
> failure.
> And the important thing, They work like a charm, they dont crash, they dont
> get toasted,etc.
>
> And My Asterisk box will be more than happy to get a voice stream that does
> not need to transcode, recode, etc.
>
> So my advice to you Tom, get External Gateways but keep them below 20-30 FXS
> or below 20-30 FXO, ottherwise you'll end up wasting room space and power
> consumption.
>
> Kris: do you use app_meetme or app_conference for conference rooms?
> The question arises due to meetme needing to convert to slin before stream
> broadcasting. app_conference does not need to do that.
>
> Oh, an in case someone actually read this post, im still learning about
> mini/micro/nano ATX/ITX and I need to know what do I need to get to deploy a
> 12FXS/4FXO g711, CF based linux/asterisk and hdd used to hold voicemail. My
> previous post went unanswered.  ;;)
>
>
> I hope my rant help others....
>
>
>
> On 9/28/06, Kristian Kielhofner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tom Bacevicius wrote:
> > > I am about to start researching the purchase of a few of these
> > > external gateways. I was wondering if anyone could share their
> > > experiences and make some recommendations? Kristian, you seem to
> > > have quite a bit of experience with these things. Can you share some
> > > of your wisdom with us ;-)
> > >
> > > Thanks, Tom
> > >
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > Analog/POTS:
> >
> > AudioCodes seem nice.  I have yet to use one extensively, but I have a
> > couple of them lying around that I have played with a bit.  They have
> > a TON of configuration options (seriously - if you though Sipura was
> > bad, just wait), which I always appreciate.
> >
> > For one off scenarios, I like the Linksys/Sipura devices.  The
> > features aren't bad, they are easily provisioned, and they are stable.
> > There are some quirks, though.  For instance, last I checked the 3xxx
> > gateways do not listen for DTMF tones on the PSTN Line when the call
> > has been connected to a SIP server.  That's pretty annoying...
> >
> > Digital (PRI hopefully):
> >
> > Cisco.  I really have a love/hate relationship with them.  Just when I
> > start to appreciate their products, I am reminded of why so many
> > people hate them.  When it comes time to activate or renew a service
> > contract, for example (just to get new IOS versions).  Anyways, they
> > are expensive but you can find a 2651XM and NM-HDV module on the used
> > market for less than you'd think (still not cheap).  It you are buying
> > new gear, on the low end the 2811 + PVDM2 + VWIC2 is a good combo.  On
> > the high end, you have got to appreciate the AS5xxxXM, which can
> > easily support eight PRI circuits in 1U.  All Cisco gear has
> > standardized versions of IOS that support everything you'd ever need,
> including:
> >
> > 1) SIP over anything - UDP,TCP,etc
> > 2) T.38 faxing (even as a gateway, obviously)
> > 3) G729a/b/G723 in hardware (DSP)
> > 4) So, so much more
> >
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