On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, James Holderness wrote:


Sylvain Hellegouarch wrote:
Atom may have come from the blogging world but it's pretty clear that it gradually becomes the de facto envelop format for any kind of exchange.

The question is why? I don't see much benefit in using Atom over some proprietary form of XML (but plenty of disadvantages) unless you specifically intend the data to be readable in a typical, blog-reading, Atom client as well.


Having built a heavily-used (here at UT Austin) CMS/DAM with Atom as the standard internal XML format, I have found all kinds of benefits (many of which I could've predicted, some I couldn't):

-tool/library support
-feed validator that allows me to sanity-check all sorts of internal operations -"introspecting" internal application processes w/ nothing more than Firefox -ability to "subscribe" to internal processes (including highly configurable search results) with a news reader/live bookmarks, etc. -sereniditous re-use opportunities (e.g. "let's make a podcast of this search...") -lightweight integration with MANY other systems of which all I need to ask is: "parse and Atom feed"

to enumerate just a few.

Thus, this talk of a better/enhanced mechanism for media description is of great interest, and I have high hopes that some consensus s=can be reached.

--peter keane

I suspect there's a lot of cargo-cult engineering behind many uses of Atom outside the blogging world. Just because you can wrap your data in an Atom envelope, that doesn't mean you should.

However if we decide to extend the atom vocabulary like Yahoo did with Media-RSS, we ought to actually discuss first with the main players in the field today (Apple, Microsoft, Xiph, EXIF, etc.) in order to define the minimal relevant set of metadata for common media formats.

We're back to the use-case of "have metadata - must publish". Why? Who wants that metadata? What for?

Regards
James


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