Hi David,

* M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-09 10:00]:
>On 3/8/06, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> * James Yenne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-08 20:30]:
>>>I would call IE7 dropping xml-stylesheet directives a data
>>>lose issue.
>>
>> Neither desktop nor online aggregators (such as NetNewsWire
>> and Bloglines) have ever paid attention to such directives.
>> What is your opinion on that?
>
>Both of these are services, not browsers.  As a service, its
>understandable... Limited server resources would justify this,
>as would the need to cache the data feed, and the related
>transformation or css files.

No, one of them (NetNewsWire) is a desktop application. Like all
desktop aggregators, it throws away any styling information
associated with the feed via XML means. Many of them will even
filter away (some of) the styling information transmitted in the
body of an entry using HTML’s provisions, for security reasons.

>However, when the client accesses the feed directly from the
>browser, the resources are no longer an issue, as your dealing
>with a one-to-one relationship between user and machine, and
>your also dealing with a browser that has always rendered the
>XML files as specified the PI directives, as long as those files
>are valid XSLT and/or CSS files in which IE supports. While you
>could argue that CSS support is dodgy at best, XSLT support is
>quite the opposite.

This is a question of semantics: is IE7 a browser, or is it a
combined browser and aggregator? If you see it as the latter (I
do), it follows that it has the same freedoms as every other
desktop aggregator: that is, to ignore the styling information
associated with feeds at the feed level.

James Yenne seems to be advocating a third option: that the
behaviour should differ depending on whether the feed in question
in being viewed before or after subscribing. To me, that feels
like combining the worst of both worlds. Interface inconsistency
that depends on a remote part of the application state seems like
really bad design from the user perspective, and throws away the
opportunities opened up by combining browser and aggregator in a
single interface.

Regards,
-- 
Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>

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