CardinalFang;142516 Wrote: 
> But we do have the means to do it, it would just be prohibitively
> expensive! Think of the measuring gear used in military listening
> devices or all manner of scientific measuring equipment in physics labs
> that require incredible fidelity. They cost billions to develop and the
> science and engineering is well understood. 
> 
> We are far from done because the skill is getting as close as possible
> to the original sound at a reasonable price. It's manufacturing and
> engineering led. Give any serious audio company infinite budgets and
> the option to modify your house and they'd be able to make incredibly
> faithful equipment.

A simple easy to understand comparison is the GPS system.

A cheap ($50) GPS receiver can pickup 12 simultaneous radio waves
around 1.5Ghz or so.  This is from an orbit of > 12,000 miles.  These
tiny tiny radio signals are all combined in the GPS unit to give you a
fairly good location mark..  with a good view of the sky you can get
down to about 10m or so with a fairly cheap unit.

Of course, this has not always been the case.. an older unit that cost
$500 originally can barely do 20m for example.. electronics and
engineering have improved, DSPs have improved.

The cheap unit is of course not the best unit you can buy, it has been
engineered to be cheap, but still do well enough that most people won't
mind it.

I have had experience with brand new, very modern, very good GPS units.
The one I have been playing with cost > $25,000.  This unit has been
engineered with different people in mind, but wow.. I can get location
information down to < 1m.  This device is not exportable from the US,
but it is commercially available to just about anyone.  I have also
been looking at a slightly higher cost version that is exportable, but
has the same accuracy.

As CF has been trying to explain.. engineering is about building within
constraints.

We have the science to detect and correct for the effects of general
relativity on GPS satelites that are 12 thousand miles away.  Detecting
and adjusting for audio signal problems is not hard, it just takes
proper engineering.

As for a previously posted analogy about car modders being like audio
modders.. there's one flaw.. car modders have tests:
HP, tourq, rpm, 0-60 time/mph, 1/4mile time/mph.  People who don't test
to prove their mods in the car industry are written off as posers.


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