beerbunny;153750 Wrote: 
> Thanks for this suggestion. It's a great idea and helped me to (I think)
> understand what is going on. I set the NAD aside and ran 1) SB2 optical
> to Yamaha: good sound and bass; 2) SB2 RCA to Yamaha: poor sound, weak
> bass; 3) didn't have digital coax cable so no SB2 digital coax to
> Yamaha; 4) SB2 optical to Yamaha, Yamaha RCA to NAD: good sound and
> bass; 5) SB2 RCA to Yamaha, Yamaha RCA to NAD: poor sound, weak bass.
> After running these tests, my guess would be that the Yamaha's DAC is
> superior to the SB2's DAC. Do you agree?
I don't necessarily agree with your conclusion. My experience is that
the SB2 DAC is actually pretty high quality.

Do we know whether the Yamaha digitises its analogue inputs? If it
does, then there is bound to be a gain mismatch between the digital and
analogue inputs, and this could easily account for perceived quality
differences (louder is generally interpreted as better).

Here's the reason for the gain mismatch. When you use a digital input,
it can simply be passed straight to the DAC. When you use an analogue
input, it has to be passed through an A/D converter. Now, since the
Yamaha cannot possibly know what signal level you might feed it, it has
to operate the A/D converter at a level so that the largest conceivable
input won't cause digital clipping. Therefore more typical input levels
will be operating the A/D converter below its peak level capability.
Apart from getting a quieter digital signal (compared to feeding the SB
digital output into the Yamaha), you'll also be losing a bit of
resolution. But I'd be surprised if the Yamaha didn't have a decent 24
bit A/D converter, so the resolution issue shouldn't be a big deal - my
money is on the analogue input simply providing less volume.

(Of course if the Yamaha has a poor quality A/D converter, then that
could be a much more straightforward reason for the reduced quality via
its analogue inputs).

Incidentally, to test the SB digital coax, just use any RCA lead you
have lying around. As long as the length of cable is not too long,
you'll be fine.


-- 
cliveb

Performers -> dozens of mixers and effects -> clipped/hypercompressed
mastering -> you think a few extra ps of jitter matters?
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