DeVerm;338540 Wrote: 
> I agree with SuperQ that a true-sine, on-line ups is the best solution.
> 
> DCtoDaylight: that -is- a 1-box, easy to put in, solution.
> 
> Nonreality: I wouldn't hear it as I live on a boat and almost always
> have to make my own AC. Right now we are in a marina and we have
> shore-power. However, we feed that through an isolation transformer for
> safety aboard (boat is in salt water...) and the transformer acts as LP
> filter. 
> 
> I'm not trolling, the on-line ups is a way better and cheaper thing to
> buy than those crazy power-cords because it actually will provide clean
> power, regardless of the question if you need any of it or not. It's
> probably cheaper than "audiophile-rated" conditioners too, which
> improve nothing over a well designed PSU inside your audio-kit. All
> that these cords and conditioners can do is reduce risk from lightning
> damage and all of the rest they can do is already done in the PSU's
> inside good kit (but they falsely claim more). The UPS can isolate you
> 100% from the grid.
> 
> After reading some pages on wikipedia, I understand that the definition
> of audiophile has changed over the years. They are now considered
> non-technical, which makes me understand many postings in this forum
> better. Within the group of audiophiles must be a minority who are
> actually technical like me and obviously SuperQ.
> 
> I'm also a HAM. I know that when I operate my HAM radio I will cause
> distortion with my neighbours audio as they will be able to hear me
> from their speakers even with all their audio-kit turned off! My RF
> will also travel into the AC grid and affect people's audio a bit
> further away. So yes, some people can have a use for clean power
> because HAM's live ashore too and there's more sources for AC pollution
> which can give audible results. I also think that most people in the
> group that buy the conditioners and cables are not having any problems
> at all and just destroy some $$$ they have. Makes me smile ;-)
> 
> ciao!
> Verm.

So what do you hear when you get noise from AC.  I do run filters but
didn't notice any sound difference but my plasma display improved
enough to be noticeable.  It got rid of the occasional blocks that
happen on screen changes.  Any sound quality that I may have perceived
could be written off as imagination or wishful thinking.  It's a
monsterpower (yeah I know not a popular name) but it was almost half
off and seems to be very well made and provides nice protection and a
clean way to plug everything in. It has various vidio and audio filters
and like I said the video surprised me in that I actually noticed the
improvement.  But does what you see on your oscilloscope really
translate into sound defects?  How much does noise in power translate
into noise in sound?  I've heard both sides, a ton and very little
unless you live in a very bad area.  The main reason I bought the
monsterpower was for surge and lightning protection, the other stuff
was a bonus.  I didn't trust the strips and after reading up on it, it
seemed to be a nice unit the size of a small amp.  Your idea of running
all battery I guess might help someone with very high end equipment but
I guess the question is where is the point that you will see the
benefit?  At least you are reccommending something that is useful and
will work for sure instead of the magic cables and such.  I just wonder
how much the power in a good area affects the sound.   Oh sorry about
the troll thing, was thinking you were talking about a different idea,
my mistake.


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