DeVerm;353513 Wrote: 
> Your links to this Brian editor fellow? 

No.  I was referring to the fact that that paper has precisely zero
citations (at least that turned up on either google scholar or the web
of science) that are not one of the following:  by at least one of the
authors, a whitepaper for a speaker manufacturer and/or hi-rez
standard, an article arguing that hi-rez is unnecessary, or one paper
on EEG techniques by faculty in the same department.

I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post - I'm getting really
bored with this.

Themis;353514 Wrote: 
> 
> It's nice discussing scientific studies using our own thoughts, but, as
> we have limited scientific background, unless we can bring some -new
> personal evidence- in the debate, the discussion is not constructive. 

Speak for yourself.  I'm a professional scientist, as is at least one
other poster in this thread.  

> I don't feel up to criticizing scientific studies using solely my logic
> : it's kind of ridiculous.

It's not at all ridiculous. Science is based on logic.

Robin Bowes;353543 Wrote: 
> 
> I didn't say individuals couldn't learn it - just that they either have
> 
> it or not.
> 

Eh?

Themis;353626 Wrote: 
> 
> I suppose that listening to SACD recordings (which are not redbook
> remasters) with proper reproduction material (decent amplifier and
> speakers) should result to this : increased pleasure. That's the way I
> understand it. But the difference is not "audible".

If that were the case, you might have thought that at least one out of
the 500 or so subjects in the recent 2-year study of SACD versus
redbook would have been able to distinguish between them, wouldn't you?


Remember, the evidence for "increased pleasure" comes -entirely- from
blind ABX listening tests.  That means it *is* audible by the most
useful definition for this discussion (a difference in sound that
listeners can perceive blind) - so why was it not audible during these
SACD tests?  And more importantly, given that it was not, why do we
care?


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