ErikM;388577 Wrote: 
> Teros: I'm sorry no one mentioned that this is actually the
> ANTI-audiophile forum. If it measures good than that's all that
> matters. How it sounds is really of no concern, because you must have
> either deluded yourself, or you didn't do double ABX super blind
> testing, and of course bits is bits.. all of the engineering books say
> so. So it is writen so it must be.

yea yea, but in this case you a bit off the mark ? the OP has done
something that actually changes the performance of the device 1+,
saddly something that makes it perform 1000 times worse in some
measurable aspect(jitter ) that is  normally believed among audiophiles
to be kept as low as possible ? this is a contradiction, but don't worry
it's typical pseudo science to choose evidence when it fits the case you
want make and dismiss them when it does not fit.

The "magic pebbles" this is not a snide remarks people do this ? shakti
stones mpingo disks peter belt (audio's answer to Uri geller ) et all.

Typically to many Audphiles tend to have the same attitude towards
technology as Cargo cultist has towards real aviation .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

a good quote here from that wiki:

"From time to time, the term "cargo cult" is invoked as an English
language idiom to mean any group of people who imitate the superficial
exterior of a process or system without having any understanding of the
underlying substance. The error of logic made by the islanders consisted
of mistaking a necessary condition (i.e., building airstrips, control
towers, etc.) for cargo to come flying in, for a sufficient condition
for cargo to come flying in, thereby reversing the causation. On a
lower level, they repeated the same error by e.g. mistaking the
necessary condition (i.e. build something that looks like a control
tower) for building a control tower, for a sufficient condition for
building a control tower.

The inception of cargo cults often is defined as being based on a
flawed model of causation, being the confusion between the logical
concepts of necessary condition and sufficient condition when aiming to
obtain a certain result. Based on this definition, the term "cargo cult"
also is used in business and science to refer to a particular type of
fallacy whereby ill-considered effort and ceremony take place but go
unrewarded due to flawed models of causation as described above.

The term as an adjective is perhaps best known outside of anthropology
because of a speech by physicist Richard Feynman at a Caltech
commencement, wherein he referred to "cargo cult science", and which
became a chapter in the book Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!. In the
speech, Feynman pointed out that cargo cultists create all the
appearance of an airport right down to headsets with bamboo "antennas",
yet the airplanes do not come. Feynman argued that some researchers
often produce studies with all the trappings of real science, but which
are nonetheless pseudoscience and unworthy of either respect or
support."


And yes the natives of these remote tribes are probably respectable
people with good intentions,but they will probably be very angry at you
if you laugh at them and point out this will never work. You should
probably adopt another strategy while doing this to be productive.

The uncanny parallell is that if you come down on the fringe
audiophiles to hard with "facts of life and the physical universe" they
will backlash and throw their shakti stones and magic pebbles at you.

I consider myself being an audiophile, but I sometimes grow very tired
seeing a respectable hobby turning in a mysticism religion on it's
own.
Even more perverse is the willingness from manufacturers to provide
this cult with expensive religious "relics", causing a feedback loop
making things even worse.

Therefore it is very refreshing to now that a thing like the
transporter exist, it should be in a museum beside some other things
like Bryston amps and some Meridian products, as "the last line of
audio products where science was a factor during the development ".

I consider this to be an Audiphile forum if one is interested in the
art of reproducing recordings in ones home for example.
but not in the respect of being a member forum for an obscure cult.


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Mnyb
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