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I also support debate. However I am not really sure what debate there really is to have. It seems that the basic fact is understood that there is no such thing as tc/ip jitter in the sense that there is spdif jitter and that any effect would have to work via loading the touch hardware and/or its psu. This is no big deal for klaus since the whole philosophy of the toolbox is to lower the processor load on the touch by cutting out unnecessary processes. So far so good. Now this load reduction may or may not affect the touch's analog outs to an extent which is perceptible. There is some evidence that it does affect the output. Perceptibly is a different matter. Most people on the audiophile forum use external dacs however and whether the mods can significantly affect these is a whole other ball game. Obviously I am ignoring the subjective reports which are depending on ones point of view A the only thing that matters B of no interest whatsoever ; or C somewhere imbetween A and B These reports are also to say the least not entirely consistent. I am not really sure what debate there is to be had. I think people should be aware that conventional wisdom would have it that the likelihood of any of this making any significant difference to a competently designed dac is very slight. Of course the same goes for digital cables and cd transports which are reviewed as having noticeable subjective effects in every issue of every(?) hifi magazine. Conventional wisdom may be wrong and lots of audiophiles are utterly uninterested in it, even if they are even dimly aware that it differs somewhat from hifi magazine op ed. The only point in rehearsing this IMHO is in case anyone who had done no general reading on the subject, and stumbled on this forum, were under the misapprehension that everyone was agreed that turning off your touches wifi was likely to make your benchmark/lavry/ Weiss dac sound better. I only pick these examples because IIRC the designers of these dacs have published views which tend to suggest they would be very surprised if this was the case. Perhaps one day John Atkinson or paul miller can be persuaded to do an series of tests using touches with and without mods into various dacs to see if the jitter and distortion measurements change much. I have my doubts that this will make much difference if they do not show a significant change because it will be said that they are measuring the wrong thing. None of this takes away from klaus' pioneering work for which I am very grateful. -- adamdea ------------------------------------------------------------------------ adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
