ralphpnj wrote: 
> I read this and thought "Didn't I post something similar a while back?"
> And yes I did. My apologies to Mr. Kloss but I was unaware that I was
> paraphrasing his original statement.
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> Excellent example of using measurements to distort what are basically
> inaudible differences.
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> To deal with jitter all one needs to spend is about $50 - the price for
> any cheap portable mp3 player or any cheap DVD/CD player.
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> Many of us here have stated over and over and over again that it's not
> that we think that NOTHING makes a difference but rather that we think
> that many things that the audiophile press claim make a difference
> DON'T, such as mega-buck USB cable or mega-buck power cables.
> 
> And as has been pointed out several times in this thread, many of the
> things that can make a difference are ALREADY dealt with very nicely in
> good quality audio equipment. For example, must halfway decent audio
> equipment comes with very good quality power supplies so spending money
> on after market power supplies is usually not a very good investment.
> The same principle applies to most cables and wires - most well made,
> good quality cables and wires from companies like Belkin and Blue Jeans
> Cable is all one really needs to get 99.999% of the performance of any
> mega-buck cable or wire. But hey: IT'S YOUR MONEY!!!!

Yes I agree completely, i just don't believe in the fairytales , I
invested in my meridian system and the system before that ( Dynaudio
speakers ) because I do like good sound and a lot of things matter .

And to yet again try to sate the obvius most reciever chips for spdiff
etc has some anti jitter measure for fractions of a $ and are in most of
our equipment and yes even the simple dual pll loop is quite okay with a
normal source .
I tried to explain that there are 1000's reasons my equipment performs
good jitter rejection is just a small part of it .

And I do think good technical performance even when some things in
isolation are not directly audible is important as things add up in the
end ,beginning in the recording studio eventually it reaches a threshold
when it's not enjoyable anymore .

But as we try to get trough ,many audiophile things are just ineffective
expensive and worse contra productive to the goal of good sound
reproduction .

No one has said that amp performance is unimportant for example ,just
that good amplifiers can't be telled apart when not -driven outside ther
specification- but they usually are with inefficient speakers and a
large room .
You can also hear them with the wrong gain structure btw .

But audiophile takes the wrong turn here ,reading TAS and getting
something for their $ with 25wpc instead of 250w of adcom or Rotel power
for the same $ folks in general do have to little power the amps should
never clipp when you use them.

And due to bad subjective design we se the return of stuff you can hear
,problems that where solved decades ago , so here the audio press could
help us but do they ? No they praise for example bizarre audionote
speakers with mismatched drivers and bad frequency response ?

Another "audiophile" solution is the fetish of first order cross overs
in speakers , this places enormous demands on the drivers and are not
economically effective at all that it takes very expensive tweeters to
not distort the upper midrange and notch circuits and whatnots ( that
your amp don't like one bit ) to solve break up and resonces in the
midrange, basically for worse speaker can not go loud without problems .
Yes I owned Dynadio a brand known for this :) the speakers where good
anyway and probably costed more because of it ( for some reason their
pro speakers uses higher order xover)

We could go one with with more " audiophile solutions for none problems
" for example even very modest speakers have biwire or triwire terminals
for no reasons , this have become a paradigm in contemporary speaker
design and a market " must have ".
This have disqualified a whole class of solutions for speaker xover with
series filters ? And just cost more .
I do realise that in for example linn speakers that eventually can be
converted to active speakers ,they are needed .

No negative feedback designs ? NOS DAC's ?


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