SBGK wrote: 
> if the measurements were simple there wouldn't be any debate.
> 
> you need to find measurements that reflect peoples experience when
> hearing differences due to things upstream of the dac. To date those
> measurements haven't been found, however there's a growing cottage
> industry of improved products based developed according to how they
> sound.
> 
> *It is to the objectivists shame that they haven't moved the debate on
> from believing that because current measurements don't show a difference
> then anyone reporting a difference must be insane*.
Indeed & we see why on this thread - they simply don't know enough or
aren't interested enough to try to envisage what measurements are neeed
& how to go about doing these measurements. Hence we see Archi clinging
to 8KHz noise measurement.

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