utgg wrote: 
> On their own they aren't going do anything, of course. But most forms of
> renewable energy will also require huge amounts of energy storage in
> order not to still require fossil fuel generators on standby to fill in
> the gaps. And with pretty well all forms of energy usage moving over to
> electricity, this standby capacity would actually need to be many fold
> larger than the total current fossil fuelled generating capacity, to
> cover those windless and sunless times. So energy storage is still a
> very important thing to be working on...

Yes my company is working on that and also have interest in wind power .
That would be a good combination .
One plan is to use used battery packs from electrical cars and run them
down further as energy storage before recycling , as the car owner might
not like it when the battery is of 60% of its original storage capacity
. But in an energy storage facility space and weight are not as big an
issue as in a vehicle .

But even a fossil power plant is actually more efficient than a piston
engine . Most of it leaves the exhaust as heat .
A large turbine is somewhat more efficient . I haven't studied
thermodynamics in a while so I have not the exact figures , but the
piston engine is a looser :) especially petrol , diesel is better .

In colder climates you can use the waste heat from the power plant for
district heating . Then you actually use 90% of the energy .

But the waste heat from nuclear facilities is not used for heating ,
chickens I say ;)



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