Well that's it, I am now on the floor hugging myself, I have s_at myself, the floor is nice and safe for now and my ears are ringing from maniacal induced laughter. Briefing briefing briefing ahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahah
Justin Sent from my iPad > On 3 Mar 2016, at 10:00 PM, Gary Stevenson <gstev...@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hi Mike, > As usual, good robust discussion. > > Re the 3 km finish circle for competitions, please CAREFULLY re-read Matt > Gage’s post on this. > > My comment is that this arrangement “just did not happen”, but is in fact > the end result of a process of evolution that spans many years of experiment > worldwide . As a current competition pilot, I will further suggest to all > forum members, most of whom are NOT competition pilots, that this > arrangement is the best that the combined minds of the gliding movement has > been able to come up with, and most certainly one that I agree with. > Straight in and land long is the name of the game. If you have excess height > then do a (non conflicting), circuit onto another strip. The recommended > procedure will of course be spelt out at the daily briefing. > > If people want to do stupid things, or push the limit (on final glide or > elsewhere), that is their choice: Sometimes they will get away with it. If > they survive the first fuck-up and don’t learn, they will ultimately, > without the slightest doubt, end up dead. > > Please read again that article by Bruno Gatenbrink that I earlier posted. Do > keep in mind that even If you are a World Champion and you badly fuck up, > there is only one outcome. > > As to comment on the Waikerie crash: Taboo on discussing such accidents does > not enter into it . Simon Hackett in his post, went to some pains to explain > why. As the pilot survived the crash, we will in the fullness of time get a > definitive report on this accident. So please be patient. > > Regards, > Gary > > From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf > Of Mike Borgelt > Sent: Thursday, 3 March 2016 5:48 PM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Potential dangers in the sport of gliding > > > Well the Pete Cesco thread turned into a useful discussion on safety. All to > the good. > > I understand the desire to move the finish away from the airfield but making > at the ground 3Km out was so obviously stupid I still can't believe it. We've > only severely broken two gliders and risked pilots' necks before starting to > fix that. > > If you want a remote finish move it vertically. About 1000 to 1500 feet above > the middle of the airfield will do fine. Don't make it at that height you get > distance points only. That will DEFINITELY encourage not cutting it too fine, > just as the ground does. Must be above the minimum for the last 3km(or say > 5km). Lots of time to sort out a crowded circuit as the racing stops below > finish height. > > For some strange reason discussing accidents seems taboo. FWIW I've heard > from 3 sources that the Waikerie accident was a spin in, not a misjudged > final glide. > > If what I've heard is anything like true the story needs to get out at least > in preliminary form as soon as possible. > > With any luck the flight recorder data is available. > > One other thing - eyewitness accounts, even from the participants, are > notoriously unreliable. Wernher von Braun and his mates found that out at > Peenemunde in 1942 when several witnesses would give totally conflicting > accounts of what happened to the failed rocket launches, hence started > filming them. > > There is also a well known phenomenon of people suffering a traumatic event > or shock not remembering a damn thing for some seconds to minutes even though > they were conscious and functioning because it doesn't go in to long term > memory. You don't even have to be injured for this to happen. (I consulted a > flying shrink about that one) > > Mike > > > > > > Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation > since 1978 > www.borgeltinstruments.com > tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 > mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring
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