I guess crops could be harvested with gliders using ground effect...
perfect practice for comp finishes at Lake Keepit, etc....

Thanks & Regards,

Nelson Handcock
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On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Bob Dircks <dircks....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Matt,
>
> Just out of interest what would it cost to develop our own farm system. ?
>
> Are you thinking wool, beef or cropping ?
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Optusnet <jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> Just out of interest what would it cost to develop our own farm system. ?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 7 Mar 2016, at 2:12 PM, Matthew Scutter <yellowplant...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> FLARM's idea of licensing is for you to produce identical hardware to run
>> their proprietary software on.[1] There is no standard, open or closed, to
>> license and implement. This really doesn't have any bearing to the ISO
>> standards writing process, except in how dissimilar it is.
>>
>> As for the encryption, here's the IGC's views on the matter[2]
>> "it is our opinion that the justifications for encryption cited by FLARM
>> are weak, and that the actual motivations for encrypting the messages fall
>> largely outside the technical realm."
>>
>> I think FLARM has done great things for gliding. I am proud to own a
>> PowerFLARM, but they've overstepped the mark with encryption.
>>
>> [1]
>> http://flarm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/FLARM-System-Design-and-Compatibility.pdf
>> [2]http://www.fai.org/downloads/igc/IGC_2016_Plenary_AX6_2_4
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Justin Couch <jus...@vlc.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/03/2016 1:42 PM, Mark Newton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Protecting the text of a standard under copyright and making it
>>>> purchasable, is not the same thing as making the standard unimplementable
>>>> without paying license fees, and you know it.
>>>>
>>>> Reputable standards bodies insist on open royalty free patent licensing
>>>> these days. The ones that don’t are slowly marginalizing themselves.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Incorrect. I've been involved in the ISO standards writing process for
>>> just over 20 years now - including part of the MPEG 4 and 7 standards, so I
>>> know it inside out. Reputable standards bodies like ISO have individual IP
>>> policy for every specification or group. It is not blanket across the
>>> organisation. In the case of MPEG, there is a large patent body pool called
>>> MPEG-LA. You cannot implement an open standard without paying license fees
>>> for the patents behind. MPEG is very far from being an isolated incident at
>>> ISO. There are other completely open standards such as SEDRIS or X3D that
>>> require contributors to license any contributed patents for zero cost to
>>> all implementors. There's, of course, others in between.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can write an MPEG implementation which interoperates with everyone
>>>> else’s MPEG streams and distribute it in competition with other MPEG
>>>> implementations, by following the text of the standard.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No you can't. You can try, but they will come after you, particularly if
>>> you write an encoder. That's why alternates like Ogg guys started out - to
>>> completely avoid the patents.
>>>
>>>
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