(I sent this to an individual earlier, finger trouble with webmail,
it was meant to go to the list)
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Its not good news (that's why I said it was moot)
As has been pointed out elsewhere some of the aircraft on the register
may no longer be airworthy, although I don't think it is that many.
With the numbers below it indicates to me that the total number of
gliders on the register increased by 56 while there were 64 new
gliders. So there were at least 8 disappeared off the register (more
if someone imported an older glider during that time).
Decades ago, the progression of glider ownership, sort of, was new
(better! more competitive!) gliders were bought by wealthier clubs
(and some individuals), which after a time were sold into the second
hand market to poorer/smaller clubs and less well off individuals and
the big clubs/wealthy individuals bought the next round of
new/better/faster/whatever. Now there are fewer clubs (and
individuals) and the gliders which would have "trickled down" go into
... (limbo?)
If the number of new gliders being imported is less than the number
entering limbo (even if they are notionally privately owned) that is
far from good news.
SWK
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And I will now add:
Before people just laugh it off as " yeah, all that old low
performance stuff, no one wants that anymore, but there's still plenty
of demand for the middle performance stuff"
If we assume it is only age related, the register shows that the cut
off year for the 600 oldest gliders is 1978.
So all that "old low performance stuff" would include all the LS1s,
Cirrus, Libelles, Mosquitos, Astir CS/CS77s and Hornets and some of
the Jantars, PIK20s, ASW20s and LS3s.
If you know of any of those types of aircraft still actively flying
that means there must be _newer_ gliders which aren't.
SWK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Frawley" @gmail.com>
To:, "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 1 Feb 2017 18:57:30 +1100
Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW
some good news then. i suspect private ownership will increase for a
while yet
On 1 Feb 2017, at 6:04 PM, steph...@internode.on.net [1] wrote:
From the aircraft register of 2013
1220 gliders and motor gliders
950 privately owned
270 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc.
last year
1276 gliders and motor gliders (+4.6%, 56 actual)
981 privately owned (+3.3%, 31 actual)
295 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc. (+9.3%, 25 actual)
Only about 3 years difference, I'd be reluctant to say too much about
trends, have to go back and dig up a really old one. But private
ownership (in absolute terms) increasing more than club ownership (and
as others will point out, only about half of the gliders in Australia
are given an annual in any one year, so it all may be moot anyway).
gliders on the register newer than 3 years old in 2016 - (64 total)
36 private
28 club
Of those 64 new gliders 18 "pure" (mostly DG1000s, and 10 of them air
cadets), 46 with some sort of motor. That's a clue to the future right
there.
For pilot flying times, much more difficult to get a handle on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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To:"Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 1 Feb 2017 14:36:35 +1100
Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW
to put a different spin on it, how about asking some different
questions
1) how many gliders are there now?
2) how many are privately owned (percentage change)?
3) have the annual flown hours per pilot gone up or down?
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