In an attempt to get a worthwhile discussion get back on track. Not my ideas 
but a brief summary of this conversation so far.

Perceived problems:

GFA administration
Overly focused on competition carried out by a tiny minority of pilots
Resistant to change
Minimum required to deal with CASA

Clubs  
Membership declining

Training
Volunteer based - not providing scheduled and efficient training expected by 
younger people
Instructors need to be paid

Pilots
Very few given L2 independent ops so vast majority permanently operating under 
supervision of instructors
Gliding responsibility needs to be in the hands of the pilot, not club or CFI
Aging pilots

Aircraft
Many aging gliders
many out of service yet still on register

Solutions??


Greg Wilson





---- On Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:40:18 +1100 Robert 
Izatt<[email protected]> wrote ---- 

Not entirely true. Many have indicated a direction.Your problem is, for 1 
through 4 you have to have willingness and co-operation from the clubs and the 
management skills at the club level. Most members of a club want to enjoy the 
activity without having to run a business. You need special or stupid people 
who are happy to devote countless hours to this when really the club (or some 
members) doesn’t want to deal with all the hassles of larger numbers, less 
access to equipment (glider/tug), bigger queues at the flight line etc etc etc. 
I have been there. 
And that’s their right and good luck to them.



On 2 Feb. 2017, at 11:11 am, Peter Carey <[email protected]> wrote:

This has been a very deep and meaningful discussion and, to me, it was 
enlightening and educational. Most of the contributions were well thought out 
and clearly expressed.My only problem is that the conversation was confined to 
defining the problem and, what we should be concentrating is a solution.
We have done the talk, now, let's try to do the walk.
I am new to the game (been gliding for 40 years) and a bloody foreigner (living 
here for 60 years) so, you have to forgive me if I am on the wrong path.
We won't be able to solve the membership decline issue with volunteer, amateur 
way so, we need to look for an alternative and here is one of many.


For years the GFA has been sitting on well over a million dollars. I suggest 
that we spend half of it on professional planning and marketing.
We would get an organization to
1. Draw up a business plan for the GFA and for the Clubs (one each for large, 
medium and small Clubs)
2. Draw up a plan and budget for effective publicity and social media campaign.
3. Oversee the implementation of the above. 
4. The implementation should be carried out by the staff employed by the GFA.


This is my crude attempt to invite praise, abuse and expansion to the above.


“Beside the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving 
things undone.” 
― lin yu tang



Peter Carey




On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Erich Wittstock <[email protected]> 
wrote:
..ahh..the sweet sound of jealousy! ;-)

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Mark Newton <[email protected]> 
wrote:
On 2 Feb 2017, at 9:24 AM, [email protected] wrote:
 
 > If we assume it is only age related, the register shows that the cut off 
year for the 600 oldest gliders is 1978. So all that "old low performance 
stuff" would include all the LS1s, Cirrus, Libelles, Mosquitos, Astir CS/CS77s 
and Hornets and some of the Jantars, PIK20s, ASW20s and LS3s.
 
 
 
 The ASH-25 first flew in 1987. That makes it a 30 year old aircraft.
 
 Won’t be too long before it’s classified as a vintage sailplane :-)
 
    - mark
 
 
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