On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:00:25 +1000, Robert Hart wrote:
>I believe that the ex-glider pilot group is one to which we should 
>be marketing. 


>From the work that has been done at some clubs and within one region 
in 'exit surveying' glider pilots leaving the sport, the problems 
have been to get truthful answers.
The responses were more in the 'nice' form - 'family commitments', 
etc.
It was impossible to get a sample that gave valid data on cost or 
access or failure to meet expectations and what these might be as 
barriers to participation.

This scatter was overlaid by the 'noise' of consumers seeking best 
price - 'that other club is cheaper' where the pilot then didn't 
shift to the other club, but exited the sport.
(the other club was further away, the ambit claim was more for the 
home club to lower its fees)


There is a belief, but without backing evidence, that exiting glider 
pilots fit into the following categories -

- young people moving into career development or family formation 
phases of their life; where it is hoped they will return once 
established. And some do. 
But the ROI is so poor (1 in 300 trainees) that I exited that field 
after 15 years in it.

- And I am still contacted on a regular cycle by a number of 
ex-glider pilots (between 30 and 60 in age) with 'let me know when 
you're flying next; 'cause I want to come out to get back into 
gliding'; but after a dozen offers of mid week and weekend days 
declined by them because of 'family commitments' I stop offering.

- there are ex-glider pilots who found that wearing the flight jacket 
just doesn't pull the birds at the party the way it did in past 
generations

- that there are a group of ex-glider pilots who were alienated from 
the sport by its archaic structure giving little flying for large 
time investment against a background of family quality time demands 
on them.

The last group would need to be reassured that the gliding they want 
is available on demand with the sport providing the current 
generation fleet, surround social scene, ground facilities and 
support, ease of access to equipment which makes the place attractive 
both for their own flying and not to be embarrassed to bring their 
friends.

The embarrassment comes in diverse forms: the untidy facilities (no 
where to sit out of the heat) and fleet, the access restrictions 
which make them look bad in front of their friends (public critique 
of their status to  type rating, check flight, flight list placing, 
aircraft not actually available when booked).

The practical problems that this raises for the sport are:
- the capital costs and at what the charge levels would have to be 
set
- the possibility that we need to accept a higher prang rate in 
return for giving people less onerous access to the sport.
(Callers for passenger flights still include sizeable numbers that 
assume they will be given a single seater to go off and play in just 
as seen on TV)

In one club structure where all the support was offered if the pilot 
came with their own glider (to cover the prang rate issue), the 
response was outrage because exiting glider pilots feel the sport 
should continue to offer everything at traditional charges as in the 
past; just add in the professional ground staff and adequate numbers 
of current generation equipment at no extra charge to meet their 
expectations.
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:52:26 +1030, P & W wrote:
>Please find attached the list we spoke of
>Regards P&W
>

With my thanks, a copy of your list will go to Chris bailey, and I'll 
use the contacts for the documents issue for the first 4 main trades
(plumbing, site work, concrete, timber frame)


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