I believe it has been mandatory for a number of years in one European county (Holland?) to have wire strike protectors fitted. These look like mini roll cages, with wire breakers, and fit inside the canopy I remember seeing a glider in Australia (Paul Matthews?) flying with one some years ago
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parncutt > Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 11:10 PM > To: 'Peter Creswick'; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality > > Yes I agree that wirecutters as installed on Pawnee's for instance would > offer a significant safety improvement, but it is the glider manufacturers > that would need to be persuaded to incorporate this in their designs. > "Good Luck"! > > In the mean time it would not be unreasonable to look at fence designs, if > only at the relatively short sections at the ends of the runway where the > majority of these incidents are likely to happen. > > Bear in mind that it is often the gliding clubs that end up maintaining > these sections of fencing anyway, since its their tugs that probably cause > the most wear and tear! > > John Parncutt > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter > Creswick > Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 10:31 PM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality > > And who is going to design them, install them, pay for them, maintain them ? > > What if the farmer / whoever refuses ? Are you going to force the issue > legally and have them "mandated" somehow ? > Good luck. > Even if you did, what about the case of an outlanding, with an old, hidden, > partial fence, with a few strands, in the middle of a field, in the middle > of nowhere ? > It is the glider that has to be equipped to deal with the wire, not the wire > being equipped / configured to deal with the glider. > What is required is a wire cutter arrangement like cropdusters have, which > would be far - far better. They have been needed for years, but everyone > refuses to consider them. Why ? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Parncutt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:19 PM > Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality > > > > Given the amount of incidents which have occurred with aerodrome perimeter > > fences especially in gliding, perhaps thought should be given to changing > > the design of these fences to make them more forgiving. > > > > Possibilities may include some sort of weak link system in each wire or > > perhaps sprung sections which may allow the canopy to deflect the wire. > > > > I'm sure there is enough ingenuity within the gliding movement to come up > > with some ideas to make these fences safer whilst still performing their > > function. > > > > John Parncutt > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce > > Taylor > > Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 8:24 PM > > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality > > > > Good call, Mitch. > > > > The only addition I would like to make is that it seems the > > pilot/instructor > > had very few options... he was released at low altitude without enough > > energy to clear the fence, and (thinking through the evidence I have > > heard) > > with a downburst happening somewhere behind him. This leaves him with an > > increasing tailwind, and if he was touching down somewhere near the stall, > > he is approaching the fence with no control response, in a > > nosewheel-equipped glider. He DID try to groundloop, with no response. > > > > Very tough for all, especially the instructor. > > > > BT. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mitchell Preston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality > > > > > >> Fair comment, Ron, however in this case we should perhaps refrain from > >> any judgement (deliberate or otherwise) until a more suitable time. I > >> would like to offer my condolences to the family of the student and let > >> my good friends at LKSC know that they are in my thoughts as they deal > >> with the aftermath of this accident. > >> > >> Mitch. > >> > >> > >> On 25/02/2007, at 9:05 PM, Ron Sanders wrote: > >> > >>> Even if you have only got five feet to run before the fence YOU MUST > >>> initiate a ground loop. > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Aus-soaring mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> To check or change subscription details, visit: > >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [email protected] > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [email protected] > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/702 - Release Date: 25/02/2007 > > > 3:16 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
