I believe it has been mandatory for a number of years in one European
county (Holland?) to have wire strike protectors fitted.
These look like mini roll cages, with wire breakers, and fit inside
the
canopy
I remember seeing a glider in Australia (Paul Matthews?) flying
with one
some years ago
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parncutt
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 11:10 PM
To: 'Peter Creswick'; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
Australia.'
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality
Yes I agree that wirecutters as installed on Pawnee's for instance
would
offer a significant safety improvement, but it is the glider
manufacturers
that would need to be persuaded to incorporate this in their designs.
"Good Luck"!
In the mean time it would not be unreasonable to look at fence
designs, if
only at the relatively short sections at the ends of the runway where
the
majority of these incidents are likely to happen.
Bear in mind that it is often the gliding clubs that end up
maintaining
these sections of fencing anyway, since its their tugs that probably
cause
the most wear and tear!
John Parncutt
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Peter
Creswick
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 10:31 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality
And who is going to design them, install them, pay for them, maintain
them ?
What if the farmer / whoever refuses ? Are you going to force the
issue
legally and have them "mandated" somehow ?
Good luck.
Even if you did, what about the case of an outlanding, with an old,
hidden,
partial fence, with a few strands, in the middle of a field, in the
middle
of nowhere ?
It is the glider that has to be equipped to deal with the wire, not
the wire
being equipped / configured to deal with the glider.
What is required is a wire cutter arrangement like cropdusters have,
which
would be far - far better. They have been needed for years, but
everyone
refuses to consider them. Why ?
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From: "John Parncutt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality
Given the amount of incidents which have occurred with aerodrome
perimeter
fences especially in gliding, perhaps thought should be given to
changing
the design of these fences to make them more forgiving.
Possibilities may include some sort of weak link system in each wire
or
perhaps sprung sections which may allow the canopy to deflect the
wire.
I'm sure there is enough ingenuity within the gliding movement to
come up
with some ideas to make these fences safer whilst still performing
their
function.
John Parncutt
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Bruce
Taylor
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 8:24 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality
Good call, Mitch.
The only addition I would like to make is that it seems the
pilot/instructor
had very few options... he was released at low altitude without
enough
energy to clear the fence, and (thinking through the evidence I have
heard)
with a downburst happening somewhere behind him. This leaves him
with an
increasing tailwind, and if he was touching down somewhere near the
stall,
he is approaching the fence with no control response, in a
nosewheel-equipped glider. He DID try to groundloop, with no
response.
Very tough for all, especially the instructor.
BT.
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From: "Mitchell Preston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality
Fair comment, Ron, however in this case we should perhaps refrain
from
any judgement (deliberate or otherwise) until a more suitable
time. I
would like to offer my condolences to the family of the student
and let
my good friends at LKSC know that they are in my thoughts as they
deal
with the aftermath of this accident.
Mitch.
On 25/02/2007, at 9:05 PM, Ron Sanders wrote:
Even if you have only got five feet to run before the fence YOU
MUST
initiate a ground loop.
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