Stuart,
Don't worry, it wasn't MP. Only flew one Hornet, that was enough. Of course
if you reckon I'm wrong then I'd be happy to fly yours to be
corrected....Having said what I said about Libelles too, I must say that I
have flown about 4 Libelles and they were all fun, but I just prefer a
Cirrus, they're even more fun - and thermalling a Cirrus is like cheating.
They tell you the thermal is RIGHT THERE. Try flying my Dad's Libelle with
the 17m Renner tip extensions for a whole new experience at rudder
ineffectiveness. Why has no-one ever come up with a rudder extension mod for
a Libelle?* With a rudder they'd be great!
I'm going to have to stop replying to this list again.......
Cheers
Bruce
* H201b has a bigger fin, but the rudder is just as poor!
On 17/04/07, Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bruce,
I have never experienced PIO in my Hornet, and I hope your
referring to a particular aircraft
with your comment in brackets.
SDF
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Campbell
*Sent:* Tuesday, 17 April 2007 10:45 PM
*To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
*Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4?
Mitch,
Std Cirrus is MUCH nicer to fly than a Libelle. Just don't let go of the
stick, and don't fly it at the aft limit.
Aileron/rudder coord is perfect. Libelle is shocking. Elevator is not
pitch sensitive as such, it is just low stick force per G. That sounds
counter-intuitive, but for normal control movements it is not sensitive, but
excessive movements produce large G loading - esp if you let go of the stick
and it gets a gust or something - then the stick goes to full travel (either
way) and you get a large G response. Easy fix - DON'T LET GO OF THE STICK.
I never had PIO in a Std Cirrus, and I've flown 7 of them now. I did have
PIO in a Hornet (piece of junk) as there is no "feel" to the stick at all.
Cheers
Bruce
On 17/04/07, *Mitchell Preston* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Looks like the result of a Piper Cub and a K4 having a quick
'liaison' behind a hangar...
Speaking of all-moving tails (boom tish!), I always found myself at
least 10 seconds behind the similarly-adorned Janus that BT used to
have at his Kentucky ops. I've never quite worked up the courage to
get back into a glider of the AMT species. I'm sure my fears are
unfounded - just a case of once bitten etc. I dips me lid to you Std
Cirrus drivers. Can't be any more 'difficult' to fly than a Std
Libelle, can they? On the topic of glider handling characteristics,
an open question to all and sundry (and JR): which glider has had you
walking away from it after landing saying "Thanks, but no thanks"? I
don't mean the Libelle, by the way (my father had one - I thought it
was tops).
Alf Lying-Tale.
On 17/04/2007, at 7:57 AM, Caleb White wrote:
> That's actually one of the more tasteful K-4 motor conversions I've
> seen photos of.
>
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