Bruce,
What an unfortunately obtuse comment regarding the Hornet. I realise that you
are entitled to your opinion,- even when it is as incorrect as yours. PIO's are
generally caused by poor pilot input, and not as you allude , a fault of the
aircraft. All the glasfuegels need a little time to get used to the parellogram
control system. Never had a pio in any of them.
The most enjoyable aircraft I have flown, was the Mucha, and then SZD's finest
production, the Cobra. I think they must have changed the engineering
department after that, and not for the better unfortunately.
The worst aircraft I have ever flown was without doubt, the Scwiezer 2-22.
Unfortunately for me, I was sentenced to hard labour instructing in the barge
for years, the only good point it did have -was a door for rear pilot entry.
Cheers
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Campbell
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4?
Stuart,
Don't worry, it wasn't MP. Only flew one Hornet, that was enough. Of course
if you reckon I'm wrong then I'd be happy to fly yours to be
corrected....Having said what I said about Libelles too, I must say that I have
flown about 4 Libelles and they were all fun, but I just prefer a Cirrus,
they're even more fun - and thermalling a Cirrus is like cheating. They tell
you the thermal is RIGHT THERE. Try flying my Dad's Libelle with the 17m Renner
tip extensions for a whole new experience at rudder ineffectiveness. Why has
no-one ever come up with a rudder extension mod for a Libelle?* With a rudder
they'd be great!
I'm going to have to stop replying to this list again.......
Cheers
Bruce
* H201b has a bigger fin, but the rudder is just as poor!
On 17/04/07, Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bruce,
I have never experienced PIO in my Hornet, and I hope your
referring to a particular aircraft
with your comment in brackets.
SDF
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce
Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 10:45 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4?
Mitch,
Std Cirrus is MUCH nicer to fly than a Libelle. Just don't let go of the
stick, and don't fly it at the aft limit.
Aileron/rudder coord is perfect. Libelle is shocking. Elevator is not pitch
sensitive as such, it is just low stick force per G. That sounds
counter-intuitive, but for normal control movements it is not sensitive, but
excessive movements produce large G loading - esp if you let go of the stick
and it gets a gust or something - then the stick goes to full travel (either
way) and you get a large G response. Easy fix - DON'T LET GO OF THE STICK.
I never had PIO in a Std Cirrus, and I've flown 7 of them now. I did have
PIO in a Hornet (piece of junk) as there is no "feel" to the stick at all.
Cheers
Bruce
On 17/04/07, Mitchell Preston < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Looks like the result of a Piper Cub and a K4 having a quick
'liaison' behind a hangar...
Speaking of all-moving tails (boom tish!), I always found myself at
least 10 seconds behind the similarly-adorned Janus that BT used to
have at his Kentucky ops. I've never quite worked up the courage to
get back into a glider of the AMT species. I'm sure my fears are
unfounded - just a case of once bitten etc. I dips me lid to you Std
Cirrus drivers. Can't be any more 'difficult' to fly than a Std
Libelle, can they? On the topic of glider handling characteristics,
an open question to all and sundry (and JR): which glider has had you
walking away from it after landing saying "Thanks, but no thanks"? I
don't mean the Libelle, by the way (my father had one - I thought it
was tops).
Alf Lying-Tale.
On 17/04/2007, at 7:57 AM, Caleb White wrote:
> That's actually one of the more tasteful K-4 motor conversions I've
> seen photos of.
>
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