"As an instructor, I only ever pull the bung if I am absolutely confident that 
I can handle the emergency if the student/pilot-on-check stuffs up or takes a 
poor option" 

I hope so!!

--- On Mon, 8/9/08, Peter Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Peter Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Training Value of 400 to 500 AGL flight
> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
> <[email protected]>
> Received: Monday, 8 September, 2008, 4:53 PM
> I agree with MT as well.  As an instructor, I only ever pull
> the bung if 
> I am absolutely confident that I can handle the emergency
> if the 
> student/pilot-on-check stuffs up or takes a poor option. My
> hand is 
> almost on the stick to prevent an error.
> 
> It is never below 300' AGL unless I can land ahead.
>  
> Prior to being an instructor, I was always disappointed
> when the annual 
> check instructor did *not* pull a low level release because
> I was 
> confident that I could do them but was never tested.  I
> have had an AEI 
> ask to practice a 300' release in a strong wind, as he
> felt the same.
> 
> Recently at Caboolture we had a power pilot who lost power
> on take off  
> at a very low height and he just pushed the nose forward
> and pancaked 
> his beautifully restored aircraft. Obviously he had a habit
> of "hanging 
> on the prop" on take off and learned the hard way.
> 
> PeterS
> 
> Texler, Michael wrote:
> >> I doubt there is any training value at all in 400
> to 500 feet.
> >>     
> >
> > I believe that there is some training value in such a
> flight:
> >
> > The ability to fly and manoevure confidently at low
> level without getting ground fright. (i.e. if I had the
> option to do a low level circuit for a safe landing on field
> after a rope break, that would my first option).
> >
> > Also low level flight is experience with ridge flying
> too.
> >
> > Also in still wind conditions, a 180 degree turn can
> be considered.
> >
> > Such manoevures need to be demonstrated at altitude,
> i.e. demonstrate a 180 degree change of heading with minimum
> height loss, in a Grob G103, banked at 60 degrees,  60 knots
> airspeed, in still air, height loss in a 180 degree turn is
> 150', with a diameter of the turn of 120m
> >
> > Obviously needs to be done with a proper briefing,
> exercise at altitude,  exercise at 400' to 500' AGL,
> post flight de-brief.
> >
> > The plane doesn't know how far it is above the
> ground.
> >
> > My 2.2c worth
> >
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