Hi,
This definitely correct as long as both the person who is responsible for
rigging the glider and and the one that does second inspection has some
knowledge / experience with the glider in question. In this instance, according
to the report, no one involved in rigging the Foka before the accident, had any
experience to speak of with this aircraft type.
The other important aspect of the accident is the role of a modified,
unauthorized rigging tool. Had the original non-cranked T-wrench was used, they
would not be able to engage the lower bevel bolt partially using the hand
force alone.
Regards
Jarek
It is absolutely clear that a second inspection will significantly reduce the
risk of a mistake.
John Parncutt
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Foka incident
Pam,
I totally support your sentiments. Additionally, on several occasions I have
deliberately left a rigging item "undone" in full view and on three occasions
the error was not discovered by the second "inspector" who I might add were all
pilots with many years experience. They all would have signed off the DI if I
hadn't then intervened. From my viewpoint there is no substitute for doing the
inspection properly yourself and taking full and sole responsibility for that.
Regards,
Geoff V
At 04:56 PM 16/05/2011, Pam Kurstjens wrote:
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Anyone who countersigns somebody else's rigging is nuts. Unless they have
observed and checked it every inch of the way, fully understand the glider type
they are signing off for, AND are willing to accept liability.
Why do we expose our fellow glider pilots to this enormous burden of
responsibility?
Pam
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Sent: Monday, 16 May 2011 2:01 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Foka incident
Rolf, in this I agree with Mike - there is no way that a duplicate control
check (or even DI) would have found the problem. Sadly, such a person would
have spent months in court defending themselves, costing them many thousands
with no prospect of any insurance helping them.
In practice, the UK do have a 2nd inspection - just with no signature. The
accident report even says this was done !
Is it the check that improves safety or the signature ????
On 16/05/2011, at 13:35 , rolf a. buelter wrote:
Yea, way more important to cover your ass against litigation then document a
second chance to get it right!
Allays your miserable Mr. Buelter
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:54:25 +1000
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>
>
> Lots of lessons in the Foka crash.
>
> One big one is how fortunate it was the BGA and there was no second
> sigmnature on the DI after rigging.
>
> Mike
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