Well said, much better than I could of.

Best Regards,
Mike Durrant
VH-FQF/OD

On 27/04/2012, at 6:27 PM, Terry Neumann <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
>>> I have had concerns with the GFA being involved in investigations, it being 
>>> both a regulator/standard setter and a quasi fraternal association.
>>> Conflict of interest? Position to protect? That is why I asked.
>>>  
>>> For myself I would hope that the tenor of any involvement by the GFA would 
>>> be covered by the media euphemism  ".........police are being assisted in 
>>> their enquiries" and no higher.
>>>    
>> 
>> The reason the ATSB investigates aviation accidents is that it was felt that 
>> CASA or its predecessor couldn't impartially investigate as their own 
>> procedures and rules may have been a factor..
>>  For this reason GFA shouldn't be investigating or "helping police with 
>> their enquiries". 
>> 
>> Now about that missing trace - *who* exactly tried retrieving it?
>>  
>> See the problem?
>> 
> 
> With the greatest of respect  I do not share these concerns - at least in the 
> volunteer sector.  Your experiences may be different of course, and I respect 
> that.   Yes, one might suggest that there could be a conflict of interest in 
> any club or GFA report or investigation of an accident, but either 
> possibility rests very uncomfortably with my  experience of gliding over 
> nearly 46 years, and my perceptions regarding of the integrity of people who 
> find their way to positions of experience and trust which could involve them 
> dealing with the factual investigation and reporting of tragedies involving 
> injury or death of their friends and fellow enthusiasts. 
> 
> Having been a GFA animal in an earlier lifetime, and in a role which intruded 
> into this area, I saw nothing at any time which suggested that 'conflict of 
> interest' was ever a consideration or factor in the analysis and discussion 
> of those mishaps which sadly, we sometimes had to deal with.   I have no 
> reason to believe that it would be otherwise today.    
> 
> For mine, I would far sooner have people who know and understand gliding in 
> particular and aviation in general investigating and reporting upon an 
> accident,  than have to wait for a police report which will almost certainly 
> never be published, or a coroner's inquest some years later conducted by 
> people for whom this may have been their first contact with the sport.   Some 
> of us already know from past experience the problems that this can cause.     
>  
> 
> Finally I must say that I appreciate how difficult it is for Gary and others 
> in his club in this situation.  It is the most dreadful experience to 
> suddenly be confronted with the reality that the sport we love so much and 
> derive so much pleasure from can also dump us in the unthinkable tragedy we 
> are now working through.   Thank you Gary for what you have shared so far.  
> I'm sure that everyone has enormous sympathy and empathy with you and your 
> club members.  A tragedy like this touches and moves us all. 
> 
> regards,
> Terry N        
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