Thank you Terry

On another side topic I notice Brad Edwards and Bruce Taylor are flying new
model JS1s in the worlds in USA and are flying them in Open Class!!!  I
wonder what the improvements are - unfortunately I am not in the loop! Both
have flown other gliders recently so it is a very interesting choice and
would be wonderful if it pays off. I guess they are banking on medium to
strong conditions and a few blue days to throw the Europeans

Ian McPhee

On 27 April 2012 18:55, Mike Durrant <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well said, much better than I could of.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mike Durrant
> VH-FQF/OD
>
> On 27/04/2012, at 6:27 PM, Terry Neumann <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>  I have had concerns with the GFA being involved in investigations, it
> being both a regulator/standard setter and a quasi fraternal association.
> Conflict of interest? Position to protect? That is why I asked.
>
> For myself I would hope that the tenor of any involvement by the GFA would
> be covered by the media euphemism  ".........police are being assisted in
> their enquiries" and no higher.
>
>
>
> The reason the ATSB investigates aviation accidents is that it was felt
> that CASA or its predecessor couldn't impartially investigate as their own
> procedures and rules may have been a factor..
>  For this reason GFA shouldn't be investigating or "helping police with
> their enquiries".
>
> Now about that missing trace - *who* exactly tried retrieving it?
>
> See the problem?
>
>
> With the greatest of respect  I do not share these concerns - at least in
> the volunteer sector.  Your experiences may be different of course, and I
> respect that.   Yes, one might suggest that there could be a conflict of
> interest in any club or GFA report or investigation of an accident, but
> either possibility rests very uncomfortably with my  experience of gliding
> over nearly 46 years, and my perceptions regarding of the integrity of
> people who find their way to positions of experience and trust which could
> involve them dealing with the factual investigation and reporting of
> tragedies involving injury or death of their friends and fellow
> enthusiasts.
>
> Having been a GFA animal in an earlier lifetime, and in a role which
> intruded into this area, I saw nothing at any time which suggested that
> 'conflict of interest' was ever a consideration or factor in the analysis
> and discussion of those mishaps which sadly, we sometimes had to deal with.
>   I have no reason to believe that it would be otherwise today.
>
> For mine, I would far sooner have people who know and understand gliding
> in particular and aviation in general investigating and reporting upon an
> accident,  than have to wait for a police report which will almost
> certainly never be published, or a coroner's inquest some years later
> conducted by people for whom this may have been their first contact with
> the sport.   Some of us already know from past experience the problems that
> this can cause.
>
> Finally I must say that I appreciate how difficult it is for Gary and
> others in his club in this situation.  It is the most dreadful experience
> to suddenly be confronted with the reality that the sport we love so much
> and derive so much pleasure from can also dump us in the unthinkable
> tragedy we are now working through.   Thank you Gary for what you have
> shared so far.  I'm sure that everyone has enormous sympathy and empathy
> with you and your club members.  A tragedy like this touches and moves us
> all.
>
> regards,
> Terry N
>
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