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Rob Moore


On 30/04/2012, at 9:37 PM, "john.mcfarlane" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> HI Peter,
>  
> It was 2 years ago in a club aircraft.  See another post this evening from me 
> re this.
>  
> I'm a VFR plane pilot - flarm has limited usefulness to myself.  I work with 
> high end IT as a profession - Technology in my hobby is something that I just 
> don’t bother with after battling with it week on week.
>  
> I was sufficiently rattled by the experience to worry about running around 
> finding cables, downloading files and find a net connection to play with an 
> app I really don’t want to use.
>  
> Btw what would the GFA done with this?  "Look out the window when flying" - 
> that’s what the CAR's mandate.  They certainly wouldn't have reviewed the 
> product performance favourably, and may have chosen to look at how insidious 
> technology can be at refocusing SA to other areas - deemed more important by 
> the biological computer at the time – with the resulting findings and changes 
> to standards etc etc etc.
>  
> Don’t get me wrong I'm all for using tools to increase information for making 
> relevant decisions, but they also have to be relevant in policy , procedure, 
> effect and for everyone – not just pockets of users because the price and 
> performance is adequate to them.
>  
> I made the comment earlier, unless some smart people are allowed to 
> contribute in a technical and supported manner  in creating a common accepted 
> standard/system – across all users of the “airspace”(important point that) - 
> one of the technologies today is going to do an imitation of the Betamax 
> video.  It goes along the lines of this:
>  
> A REX flight today had a Mid Air accident at Mildura, luckily the REX flight 
> landed with no harm to the Passengers or Crew. The plane was substantially 
> damaged and will require repairs.  The passengers suffered a 4 hour delay 
> whilst another plane was ferried to assist. The pilots where heard to remark 
> "We just didn't see anything on our instruments (TCAS) and it doesn’t look 
> like it was a bird. ATSB is investigating.
>  
> In other news the sole pilot of a glider died today after crashing 20 Km’s 
> south of Mildura at Carwarp, Police and the Coroner have been notified
>  
> Now who’s system is going to be favoured here after the cause is 
> determined……….?
>  
> Cheers
> John
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter 
> Stephenson (Internode)
> Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 8:12 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk
>  
>  
>  
> On 30/04/2012 12:02 PM, john.mcfarlane wrote:
> > snip
> > 
> > Upon landing I mentioned this to the relevant instructor. After all
> > had landed without leading I asked the glider pilots if around the
> > time of the launch their flarms had advised them of anything - All I
> > got was the passenger thought the launch release was fantastic and the
> > tug looked impressive!  Of the 3 flarms all had provided nothing to help 
> > with SA.
> > Throughout the launch both aircraft would not have been further than 3
> > km's apart vertically and horizontally.
> Hi John,
> I am surprised you did not download the Flarm traces of all the 3 aircraft  
> and plot them on See You.  What you describe was a significant incident and  
> should have been reported to GFA.
>  
> BTW Flarm can even synthesise tracks of adjacent gliders from other glider's 
> Flarms should one crash; another benefit of having a Flarm.
> PeterS
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