Hi Garry I would not dispute your eloquent analysis, my comment, at least in part, was a tongue in cheek. That being said, he did win an Australian competition in a glider that he had hardly any time in. It was of course a much far better aircraft than PW5, despite the same national heritage. The said, the glider had a fantastic training provided by the its regular pilot, and that should not be discounted :) and I do know the comp was somewhat rain affected.
My goals? These days they are quite simple - to enjoy being in the air. Cheers Paul On 30 June 2012 22:46, <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > Paul, > Greetings. > > Your comment might be true, but it is meaningless in the present context. > > From your statement I suspect that you have not flown a PW 5 for 100 hours > or so, and probably not even for 1 hour. > > We are talking quite different orders of (REDUCED), magnitude of > performance here compared to LS 8 or even LS 4, or your own SZD 55. > > You might be somewhat surprised at just how many hours Allan now has in a > LS 8. I don't know either, but my guess is well over 100 hours maybe closer > to 150 hrs. More than enough anyway, to be rated as competent, and > competitive on type. > > Genuine, experienced, PW 5 drivers at World level, understand every nuance > of their ship and the air they are flying in and react accordingly.Just in > case you are missing the point that I made in line 3 above, they have to > react quite differently to a LS 4 (or LS 8), driver. > > Allan is a great pilot, but I repeat, he is at a huge disadvantage. I > understand that he may have less than 5 hours on type (PW 5). > > Think about it! > > I certainly hope that Allan can put in a great performance, and meet (or > exceed), the goals that he has set for himself in the upcoming comp. > > Which leads me to ask; "How are you going on meeting your own goals?" > > Regards, > Gary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Paul Bart <[email protected]> > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in > Australia.<[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:01 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Argentinian Worlds > > >> So, as Tim has intimated, these are the reasons why Allan has > changed classes and will now be flying World Class - I hope; albeit at a > huge disadvantage to the rest of the field, given his inexperience in a PW > 5. > > Hmmm, the fact that he did not have too much time in LS8 does not seems to > be hurting him too much in the US right now :). > > > > > Cheers > > Paul > > > On 30 June 2012 20:32, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> Hi Ron, >> Have you made it to WA yet? >> >> Tut, tut, tut. Graft and corruption in Argentina; how can you possibly >> say that? In this case, I think that what you really meant to say was >> that a certain party has been granted a "special franchise" to handle the >> customs arrangements. >> >> I am sure you understand how this system works. Any pilot is quite free >> to use somebody else, but ........do keep in mind that if said pilot >> chooses the "alternate" route "Nothing can be guaranteed". I will leave it >> to your imagination to suppose which of the many dire possibilities that >> can happen, WILL actually happen. Do keep in mind too, that "importing the >> glider" is regarded as one exercise, and "exporting the (same) glider" is >> regarded as a totally different exercise - so (just for a start), read "pay >> double". >> >> A very level playing field (for all but the Argentinean competitors): As >> long as you are a millionaire pilot and can pay on demand without hurting >> too much, or fully funded by your country regardless of cost, you will not >> have a problem! >> >> I think that Tim will prove right on the numbers. I fell really sorry >> for Mike Durrant. He told me recently, that the true cost to be competitive >> in *Standard Class* in Argentina was of the order of A$50,000.00. >> This involved importing in, and then exporting out a competitive glider >> as NO glider was available *for hire* in the whole of South America, let >> alone in Argentina. Any competitive glider in SA would already be entered >> into the competition! >> >> Ron, I think the quanta of those "custom handling fees" you mentioned is >> about right, but maybe one of the people with first hand knowledge can >> confirm this? >> >> So, as Tim has intimated, these are the reasons why Allan has changed >> classes and will now be flying World Class - I hope; albeit at a huge >> disadvantage to the rest of the field, given his inexperience in a PW 5. >> >> I sure would like to know how Craig and Tobias are managing (if at all), >> these basically financial/logistical problems. It would seem that, as >> always, the flying is the easy(?) part of the exercise, but more so in this >> venture! >> >> Regards, >> Gary >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Ron Sanders <[email protected]> >> *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in >> Australia.<[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, June 30, 2012 2:00 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Argentinian Worlds >> >> With 10,000 USD required as graft to get a glider thru customs I think >> the IGC should have cancelled the event and held it some where where >> corruption is not the name of the game. >> >> >> On 30 June 2012 11:37, Tim Shirley <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Ron, >>> >>> As I understand it there have been significant problems with the costs >>> and bureaucratic difficulties of getting gliders into the country. >>> Apparently there are very few modern gliders available locally. I believe >>> that Allan will now be flying in the World Class as it is possible for him >>> to hire a PW5 in Argentina. >>> >>> Tobi Geiger, Craig Collings and Mike Durrant were in the original team >>> with Allan - Mike has withdrawn because of the costs but I assume that Tobi >>> and Craig are still attending. Both are in Club Class. >>> >>> This has not only affected Australia, there are many others around the >>> world who are facing this problem. It may be a fairly small event. >>> >>> Cheers **** >>> *Tim***** >>> >>> *tra dire e fare c'รจ mezzo il mare***** >>> On 30/06/2012 13:21, Ron Sanders wrote: >>> >>> ONLY Alan?????? >>> >>> On 29 June 2012 20:04, Ian Mc Phee <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Think Allan Barnes will be there. 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