Ron and others

Once the EASA licence happens any EU country will accept it to fly a glider 
registered in any EU country - your ATPL privileges apply to any aircraft 
registered in the country that issued the licence, or in any country that 
officially accepts or validates it. There is a formal treaty between Australia 
and New Zealand that does that, except that you must register a NZ licence to 
use it here or get an Australian one, whilst the kiwis just allow you to use 
the CASA licence.

It is all part of the Chicago Convention that ICAO is based on, set up to 
regularise international air travel and dating from 1944. Some countries allow 
any suitably qualified pilot to fly their registered aircraft in the country of 
the pilot's licence, usually only for private flights. Others accept an 
Australian licence for private VFR flights in their airspace - the UK is one of 
those. Others again will issue a limited licence to Australian licence holders, 
and it is only valid while the 'home' licence and medical are valid. An 
Australian 'Special Pilot Licence' is a bit like this but allows either the 
medical certificate of the licence-issuing country or an Australian medical. 
Don't ask if the driver's licence medical works with a special pilot licence, I 
have not got that piece of information yet! However this licence is only for 
day VFR private flights, not night VFR or IFR.

CASA only cancelled the project to issue a glider pilot licence recently, after 
the Part 61 rules were signed off, not out of malice but because the law 
already exists and will be in force from 4 December this year. It is unlikely 
they would have got a CAO in place any earlier as all such work ceases in the 
period before a Federal election.

Now all you have to hope for is that the Europeans will accept the Part 61 
Glider Pilot Licence, even if it is fully compliant with the ICAO Glider Pilot 
Licence in Annex 1. I think it will be, as it needs a Class 2 medical as a 
minimum.

On your related question about BFR, any check for the issue or renewal of an 
aeroplane endorsement or rating qualifies as an aeroplane BFR and any licence 
includes the privileges of the lower category licence, so your Instrument 
Rating renewal covers a light aeroplane BFR.

And the reason the SLG rating disappeared was that self launching gliders were 
moved into the single engine aeroplane below 5700 kg endorsement about 15 years 
ago, so the quote about not turning the engine off is *****cks provided you 
have the current glider qualification (but the CASA person you asked seems not 
to know the history - most of them are junior or contract call centre staff and 
not all the Inspectors know the reasons either.) (Not unique to Australia!)

Stephen scored 99%. There are a few minor points of air law that vary from 
country to country, particularly at the sub-ICAO recreational level, but the 
aviation law is to obey the rules of the country you are in. The Customs and 
Quarantine laws must be observed but not for aviation reasons, just compliance 
with different international treaties.

Hope this answers everyone's questions - if you have others ask me off line 
please and I will try to answer, or refer you to someone who can give a 
definitive answer.

Wombat

Sent from my iPad

On 28/03/2013, at 9:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Ron, 
> 
> whole thing's academic. Casa canned the glider pilots licence. It will become 
> part of the new part 61 when they promulgate it. .
> 
> 
> Topic: Closure of Standards Development Project – FS 12/21
> Jill Collinge (CASA)
> posted 26 March 2013 15:29
> Dear Flight Crew Licensing Standards Sub-committee Members
> 
> Please be advised of the closure of Standards Development project – FS 12/21 
> - Early Implementation of CASR Part 61 provisions - CASA Glider Pilot Licence
> 
> This project has been cancelled due to the imminent implementation of CASR 
> Part 61 which contains the required licence provisions. 
> 
> 
> Full details of the archived project can be found at: 
> http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts...MS:PWA::pc=PC_100935
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Jill Collinge
> Standards Division
> 
> 
> 
> So stop worrying... 
> 
> Peter Heath 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---- Terry Home <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> =============
> Sounds like you have too many licenses Ron! Just put them all on the table 
> and you should be right. 
> 
> Lucky for you, most Italian gliders are registered in Germany as the taxes 
> etc are lower. 
> 
> My experience has been that you need to get an equivalence in the country of 
> registration. Italian, French Norwegian. My Gfa white card plus a BGA 
> 'licence' plus any other bit of paper and some patience resulted in the 
> approval. 
> 
> Norway was easiest, basically a check flight. The more international your 
> license the less patience you need. The ICAO language on the new Australian 
> GPL should make it easier. 
> 
> Comments indicate that flying a German registered glider is the hardest. 
> 
> Terry
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 28/03/2013, at 5:40 PM, Ron Sanders <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Stephen, I am pretty sure that you have got the right answer. The 
>> issue for Aussies who go there in the future with the new GPC will be to get 
>> that endorsement or validation on their licence from the authority that 
>> registered the glider they are going to fly, you are right and that is the 
>> key. The present Blue "license" that the BGA issues is the same kind of con 
>> that we do (or used to) in that it is not ICAO compliant. What they are 
>> presently doing i guess is to get it so and then EASA compliant but at the 
>> mo it is not.
>> 
>> Bureaucracy dontcha love it??
>> 
>> I rang the CASA the other day to ask why the endorsement "self

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