Guys  i have had a look on CASA site regards part 61 and i can not find the
draft of it to read.Any idea where i find the part so that i can read it??
Ron


On 30 March 2013 17:18, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks wombat!
> R
>
>
>
> On 28/03/2013, at 20:25, Mike Cleaver <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Ron and others
> >
> > Once the EASA licence happens any EU country will accept it to fly a
> glider registered in any EU country - your ATPL privileges apply to any
> aircraft registered in the country that issued the licence, or in any
> country that officially accepts or validates it. There is a formal treaty
> between Australia and New Zealand that does that, except that you must
> register a NZ licence to use it here or get an Australian one, whilst the
> kiwis just allow you to use the CASA licence.
> >
> > It is all part of the Chicago Convention that ICAO is based on, set up
> to regularise international air travel and dating from 1944. Some countries
> allow any suitably qualified pilot to fly their registered aircraft in the
> country of the pilot's licence, usually only for private flights. Others
> accept an Australian licence for private VFR flights in their airspace -
> the UK is one of those. Others again will issue a limited licence to
> Australian licence holders, and it is only valid while the 'home' licence
> and medical are valid. An Australian 'Special Pilot Licence' is a bit like
> this but allows either the medical certificate of the licence-issuing
> country or an Australian medical. Don't ask if the driver's licence medical
> works with a special pilot licence, I have not got that piece of
> information yet! However this licence is only for day VFR private flights,
> not night VFR or IFR.
> >
> > CASA only cancelled the project to issue a glider pilot licence
> recently, after the Part 61 rules were signed off, not out of malice but
> because the law already exists and will be in force from 4 December this
> year. It is unlikely they would have got a CAO in place any earlier as all
> such work ceases in the period before a Federal election.
> >
> > Now all you have to hope for is that the Europeans will accept the Part
> 61 Glider Pilot Licence, even if it is fully compliant with the ICAO Glider
> Pilot Licence in Annex 1. I think it will be, as it needs a Class 2 medical
> as a minimum.
> >
> > On your related question about BFR, any check for the issue or renewal
> of an aeroplane endorsement or rating qualifies as an aeroplane BFR and any
> licence includes the privileges of the lower category licence, so your
> Instrument Rating renewal covers a light aeroplane BFR.
> >
> > And the reason the SLG rating disappeared was that self launching
> gliders were moved into the single engine aeroplane below 5700 kg
> endorsement about 15 years ago, so the quote about not turning the engine
> off is *****cks provided you have the current glider qualification (but the
> CASA person you asked seems not to know the history - most of them are
> junior or contract call centre staff and not all the Inspectors know the
> reasons either.) (Not unique to Australia!)
> >
> > Stephen scored 99%. There are a few minor points of air law that vary
> from country to country, particularly at the sub-ICAO recreational level,
> but the aviation law is to obey the rules of the country you are in. The
> Customs and Quarantine laws must be observed but not for aviation reasons,
> just compliance with different international treaties.
> >
> > Hope this answers everyone's questions - if you have others ask me off
> line please and I will try to answer, or refer you to someone who can give
> a definitive answer.
> >
> > Wombat
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 28/03/2013, at 9:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Ron,
> >>
> >> whole thing's academic. Casa canned the glider pilots licence. It will
> become part of the new part 61 when they promulgate it. .
> >>
> >>
> >> Topic: Closure of Standards Development Project – FS 12/21
> >> Jill Collinge (CASA)
> >> posted 26 March 2013 15:29
> >> Dear Flight Crew Licensing Standards Sub-committee Members
> >>
> >> Please be advised of the closure of Standards Development project – FS
> 12/21 - Early Implementation of CASR Part 61 provisions - CASA Glider Pilot
> Licence
> >>
> >> This project has been cancelled due to the imminent implementation of
> CASR Part 61 which contains the required licence provisions.
> >>
> >>
> >> Full details of the archived project can be found at:
> http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts...MS:PWA::pc=PC_100935
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Jill Collinge
> >> Standards Division
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So stop worrying...
> >>
> >> Peter Heath
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---- Terry Home <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> =============
> >> Sounds like you have too many licenses Ron! Just put them all on the
> table and you should be right.
> >>
> >> Lucky for you, most Italian gliders are registered in Germany as the
> taxes etc are lower.
> >>
> >> My experience has been that you need to get an equivalence in the
> country of registration. Italian, French Norwegian. My Gfa white card plus
> a BGA 'licence' plus any other bit of paper and some patience resulted in
> the approval.
> >>
> >> Norway was easiest, basically a check flight. The more international
> your license the less patience you need. The ICAO language on the new
> Australian GPL should make it easier.
> >>
> >> Comments indicate that flying a German registered glider is the hardest.
> >>
> >> Terry
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On 28/03/2013, at 5:40 PM, Ron Sanders <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Stephen, I am pretty sure that you have got the right answer.
> The issue for Aussies who go there in the future with the new GPC will be
> to get that endorsement or validation on their licence from the authority
> that registered the glider they are going to fly, you are right and that is
> the key. The present Blue "license" that the BGA issues is the same kind of
> con that we do (or used to) in that it is not ICAO compliant. What they are
> presently doing i guess is to get it so and then EASA compliant but at the
> mo it is not.
> >>>
> >>> Bureaucracy dontcha love it??
> >>>
> >>> I rang the CASA the other day to ask why the endorsement "self
> >
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