Guys i have had a look on CASA site regards part 61 and i can not find the draft of it to read.Any idea where i find the part so that i can read it?? Ron
On 30 March 2013 17:18, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks wombat! > R > > > > On 28/03/2013, at 20:25, Mike Cleaver <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ron and others > > > > Once the EASA licence happens any EU country will accept it to fly a > glider registered in any EU country - your ATPL privileges apply to any > aircraft registered in the country that issued the licence, or in any > country that officially accepts or validates it. There is a formal treaty > between Australia and New Zealand that does that, except that you must > register a NZ licence to use it here or get an Australian one, whilst the > kiwis just allow you to use the CASA licence. > > > > It is all part of the Chicago Convention that ICAO is based on, set up > to regularise international air travel and dating from 1944. Some countries > allow any suitably qualified pilot to fly their registered aircraft in the > country of the pilot's licence, usually only for private flights. Others > accept an Australian licence for private VFR flights in their airspace - > the UK is one of those. Others again will issue a limited licence to > Australian licence holders, and it is only valid while the 'home' licence > and medical are valid. An Australian 'Special Pilot Licence' is a bit like > this but allows either the medical certificate of the licence-issuing > country or an Australian medical. Don't ask if the driver's licence medical > works with a special pilot licence, I have not got that piece of > information yet! However this licence is only for day VFR private flights, > not night VFR or IFR. > > > > CASA only cancelled the project to issue a glider pilot licence > recently, after the Part 61 rules were signed off, not out of malice but > because the law already exists and will be in force from 4 December this > year. It is unlikely they would have got a CAO in place any earlier as all > such work ceases in the period before a Federal election. > > > > Now all you have to hope for is that the Europeans will accept the Part > 61 Glider Pilot Licence, even if it is fully compliant with the ICAO Glider > Pilot Licence in Annex 1. I think it will be, as it needs a Class 2 medical > as a minimum. > > > > On your related question about BFR, any check for the issue or renewal > of an aeroplane endorsement or rating qualifies as an aeroplane BFR and any > licence includes the privileges of the lower category licence, so your > Instrument Rating renewal covers a light aeroplane BFR. > > > > And the reason the SLG rating disappeared was that self launching > gliders were moved into the single engine aeroplane below 5700 kg > endorsement about 15 years ago, so the quote about not turning the engine > off is *****cks provided you have the current glider qualification (but the > CASA person you asked seems not to know the history - most of them are > junior or contract call centre staff and not all the Inspectors know the > reasons either.) (Not unique to Australia!) > > > > Stephen scored 99%. There are a few minor points of air law that vary > from country to country, particularly at the sub-ICAO recreational level, > but the aviation law is to obey the rules of the country you are in. The > Customs and Quarantine laws must be observed but not for aviation reasons, > just compliance with different international treaties. > > > > Hope this answers everyone's questions - if you have others ask me off > line please and I will try to answer, or refer you to someone who can give > a definitive answer. > > > > Wombat > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On 28/03/2013, at 9:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Ron, > >> > >> whole thing's academic. Casa canned the glider pilots licence. It will > become part of the new part 61 when they promulgate it. . > >> > >> > >> Topic: Closure of Standards Development Project – FS 12/21 > >> Jill Collinge (CASA) > >> posted 26 March 2013 15:29 > >> Dear Flight Crew Licensing Standards Sub-committee Members > >> > >> Please be advised of the closure of Standards Development project – FS > 12/21 - Early Implementation of CASR Part 61 provisions - CASA Glider Pilot > Licence > >> > >> This project has been cancelled due to the imminent implementation of > CASR Part 61 which contains the required licence provisions. > >> > >> > >> Full details of the archived project can be found at: > http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts...MS:PWA::pc=PC_100935 > >> > >> Kind regards > >> > >> Jill Collinge > >> Standards Division > >> > >> > >> > >> So stop worrying... > >> > >> Peter Heath > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---- Terry Home <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> ============= > >> Sounds like you have too many licenses Ron! Just put them all on the > table and you should be right. > >> > >> Lucky for you, most Italian gliders are registered in Germany as the > taxes etc are lower. > >> > >> My experience has been that you need to get an equivalence in the > country of registration. Italian, French Norwegian. My Gfa white card plus > a BGA 'licence' plus any other bit of paper and some patience resulted in > the approval. > >> > >> Norway was easiest, basically a check flight. The more international > your license the less patience you need. The ICAO language on the new > Australian GPL should make it easier. > >> > >> Comments indicate that flying a German registered glider is the hardest. > >> > >> Terry > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On 28/03/2013, at 5:40 PM, Ron Sanders <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks Stephen, I am pretty sure that you have got the right answer. > The issue for Aussies who go there in the future with the new GPC will be > to get that endorsement or validation on their licence from the authority > that registered the glider they are going to fly, you are right and that is > the key. The present Blue "license" that the BGA issues is the same kind of > con that we do (or used to) in that it is not ICAO compliant. What they are > presently doing i guess is to get it so and then EASA compliant but at the > mo it is not. > >>> > >>> Bureaucracy dontcha love it?? > >>> > >>> I rang the CASA the other day to ask why the endorsement "self > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [email protected] > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >
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