Thanks wombat! R
On 28/03/2013, at 20:25, Mike Cleaver <[email protected]> wrote: > Ron and others > > Once the EASA licence happens any EU country will accept it to fly a glider > registered in any EU country - your ATPL privileges apply to any aircraft > registered in the country that issued the licence, or in any country that > officially accepts or validates it. There is a formal treaty between > Australia and New Zealand that does that, except that you must register a NZ > licence to use it here or get an Australian one, whilst the kiwis just allow > you to use the CASA licence. > > It is all part of the Chicago Convention that ICAO is based on, set up to > regularise international air travel and dating from 1944. Some countries > allow any suitably qualified pilot to fly their registered aircraft in the > country of the pilot's licence, usually only for private flights. Others > accept an Australian licence for private VFR flights in their airspace - the > UK is one of those. Others again will issue a limited licence to Australian > licence holders, and it is only valid while the 'home' licence and medical > are valid. An Australian 'Special Pilot Licence' is a bit like this but > allows either the medical certificate of the licence-issuing country or an > Australian medical. Don't ask if the driver's licence medical works with a > special pilot licence, I have not got that piece of information yet! However > this licence is only for day VFR private flights, not night VFR or IFR. > > CASA only cancelled the project to issue a glider pilot licence recently, > after the Part 61 rules were signed off, not out of malice but because the > law already exists and will be in force from 4 December this year. It is > unlikely they would have got a CAO in place any earlier as all such work > ceases in the period before a Federal election. > > Now all you have to hope for is that the Europeans will accept the Part 61 > Glider Pilot Licence, even if it is fully compliant with the ICAO Glider > Pilot Licence in Annex 1. I think it will be, as it needs a Class 2 medical > as a minimum. > > On your related question about BFR, any check for the issue or renewal of an > aeroplane endorsement or rating qualifies as an aeroplane BFR and any licence > includes the privileges of the lower category licence, so your Instrument > Rating renewal covers a light aeroplane BFR. > > And the reason the SLG rating disappeared was that self launching gliders > were moved into the single engine aeroplane below 5700 kg endorsement about > 15 years ago, so the quote about not turning the engine off is *****cks > provided you have the current glider qualification (but the CASA person you > asked seems not to know the history - most of them are junior or contract > call centre staff and not all the Inspectors know the reasons either.) (Not > unique to Australia!) > > Stephen scored 99%. There are a few minor points of air law that vary from > country to country, particularly at the sub-ICAO recreational level, but the > aviation law is to obey the rules of the country you are in. The Customs and > Quarantine laws must be observed but not for aviation reasons, just > compliance with different international treaties. > > Hope this answers everyone's questions - if you have others ask me off line > please and I will try to answer, or refer you to someone who can give a > definitive answer. > > Wombat > > Sent from my iPad > > On 28/03/2013, at 9:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Ron, >> >> whole thing's academic. Casa canned the glider pilots licence. It will >> become part of the new part 61 when they promulgate it. . >> >> >> Topic: Closure of Standards Development Project – FS 12/21 >> Jill Collinge (CASA) >> posted 26 March 2013 15:29 >> Dear Flight Crew Licensing Standards Sub-committee Members >> >> Please be advised of the closure of Standards Development project – FS 12/21 >> - Early Implementation of CASR Part 61 provisions - CASA Glider Pilot Licence >> >> This project has been cancelled due to the imminent implementation of CASR >> Part 61 which contains the required licence provisions. >> >> >> Full details of the archived project can be found at: >> http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts...MS:PWA::pc=PC_100935 >> >> Kind regards >> >> Jill Collinge >> Standards Division >> >> >> >> So stop worrying... >> >> Peter Heath >> >> >> >> >> ---- Terry Home <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ============= >> Sounds like you have too many licenses Ron! Just put them all on the table >> and you should be right. >> >> Lucky for you, most Italian gliders are registered in Germany as the taxes >> etc are lower. >> >> My experience has been that you need to get an equivalence in the country of >> registration. Italian, French Norwegian. My Gfa white card plus a BGA >> 'licence' plus any other bit of paper and some patience resulted in the >> approval. >> >> Norway was easiest, basically a check flight. The more international your >> license the less patience you need. The ICAO language on the new Australian >> GPL should make it easier. >> >> Comments indicate that flying a German registered glider is the hardest. >> >> Terry >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 28/03/2013, at 5:40 PM, Ron Sanders <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Stephen, I am pretty sure that you have got the right answer. The >>> issue for Aussies who go there in the future with the new GPC will be to >>> get that endorsement or validation on their licence from the authority that >>> registered the glider they are going to fly, you are right and that is the >>> key. The present Blue "license" that the BGA issues is the same kind of con >>> that we do (or used to) in that it is not ICAO compliant. What they are >>> presently doing i guess is to get it so and then EASA compliant but at the >>> mo it is not. >>> >>> Bureaucracy dontcha love it?? >>> >>> I rang the CASA the other day to ask why the endorsement "self > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
