Mate, if you are that uncertain and can find someone else dumb enough to sign, go for it. Nobody EVER had a prohibition on doing this. The objection is to making it compulsory.

Whatever happened to doing a proper control check before getting in? If you routinely operate alone you could even make some external temporary control locks so you can do a positive control check yourself.

We've had two accidents here where ailerons were hooked up backwards and in both cases at least 3 maintainers/pilots should have checked this. I once stopped another Libelle in New Zealand from taking off in this state.

Clearly the Form 2, DI and pre cockpit entry and pre takeoff checks were not being done properly. I suspect in many cases they still aren't.

As for the bloke with the motorglider, he clearly didn't check properly did he? Maybe he was distracted by one or more of the other pilots milling around when he was rigging? This is quite common at gliding operations where the concept of staying away and not bothering someone who is busy rigging or doing a DI seems foreign. For years I operated a motorglider out of a GA airport and the REALLY nice thing was that NOBODY EVER tried to interrupt me when rigging and inspecting. Now have a think about what would have happened if the second bloke missed the problem, signed the piece of paper and the motorglider pilot was killed. I'd hate to be in that position even if I knew I had checked properly. It might be years before you were off the hook.

If you have Wedekind safety couplings I'd NEVER let anyone else inspect them after I had hooked them up and checked them myself. A proper inspection of a l'otelier coupling involves visually checking and also putting load on it. Too easy for someone who isn't totally familiar to uncouple it. Then you have to check again yourself. Where does that leave the second signature bloke? He may have gone before you do that.

With powered aircraft, amongst other things, is essential to check the fuel and oil before takeoff. The consequences can be the same as not hooking up controls(death and injury and equipment wrecked). There is no requirement for a second signature.

Really, don't we get enough nanny/surveillance state already? This sort of thing makes it difficult when trying to argue against officialdom imposing stupid requirements.

Mike





At 01:52 PM 19/12/2013, you wrote:
I agree that the 2nd signature after rigging a glider requirement is a bit onerous, bit maybe not stupid. Don't you think that the number of assembly mistakes justifies getting someone else to check things over. I am more comfortable having someone else to check things over. The fact that you then ask them to sign something tends to make them more thorough.

Peter Champness


On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Mike Borgelt <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
Done.

Would be more impressive if the sport aviation bodies didn't themselves have stupid and onerous requirements.

The second signature after rigging comes to mind - for which I've never seen a justification. There are plenty of others.

Mike

At 06:36 AM 19/12/2013, you wrote:


Ladies & Gents,

The following is a link to a petition to abolish the ASIC card:
<http://tinyurl.com/removeASIC>http://tinyurl.com/removeASIC
I contend that ASIC Cards are an unnecessary impost, particularly in the light that a risk assessment (in my view) would determine a very low or negligible effective deterrent against terrorist or subversive intentions; I frankly resent the implication that we, who are properly identified during training & work hard to gain our qualifications, then are required to submit to further ID checks with the dubious privilege of paying for same.
Please consider your support for the petition & circulate to colleagues.
Thanks,
PeterS






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