Really Pam! Lists!

From: Pam 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:42 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Astir CS 1000k

That is a very good question! 

The GFA MOSP calls for a list of records flown in Australian by Australian 
Pilots, and a list or records flown anywhere in the world by Australian Pilots.

There should be two separate lists, and this could well  be an old error that 
you have spotted.

Does anyone know any more that could help cast light on this? I raised the 
question recently with GFA that there should be – and I am sure used to be – a 
list of records flown by Australian pilots elsewhere in the world. Does anyone 
recall it?

Pam

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew Scutter
Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014 20:53
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Astir CS 1000k

 

So, why is it an Australian record? Or do I have a fundamental misunderstanding 
of what constitutes a record?
http://www.gfa.org.au/GFA-Sport/records-australia.html

On 3 Feb 2014 21:14, "Mike Borgelt" <[email protected]> wrote:

  It was on the ridge, Matthew. Some years earlier Karl Striedieck did a world 
O/R record on that ridge .... in a K8. Check time zone for George's flight.

  Gawler to up north to wherever and back in that moonscape up north should 
break that record. I know several 1000 km O/R were flown in the late 80's early 
90's in I think mini Nimbus and Ventus A so a D2 or LS8 shouldn't be a problem 
on the right day.

  At least one 1000km O/ and almost return wasn't bothered to be claimed. The 
pilot did it for his own satisfaction. It was 1003 km and I know because Carol 
and I did the retrieve. He didn't quite get home. I even took my trailer as  
mine had better fittings and worked better than his.


  Mike



  At 08:18 PM 3/02/2014, you wrote:




    I'm interested to know more about the standard class 1000k out and return 
record - 1000.86km in an Astir CS by G.J Vakkur on 8/4/77. As if an Astir 
wasn't impressive enough, in April??
    Does anyone know where or how it was done? Perhaps someone has the relevant 
AG mag.
    Having done some googling I find an account ("Soaring the bald eagle 
ridge") of a George Vakkur flying 1000k out and return on 7/4/77 in an Astir CS 
in the wave in Pennsylvania, USA which seems like too much of a coincidence to 
me.
    -matthew
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