Dear All,
I am reasonably certain that most of our airborne contact incidents
occurred in thermalling situations.
The assumption that we should avoid any activities (aerotowing,
turpoints, traversing or thermalling) over built up areas, is a
nonsense. Perhaps ther is a case for improving vigilance in these areas
of concentrated activity, but total aviodance is not going to solve
that. Lets get the thread back on track and concentrate on realistic
safety improvements please.
Regards
Glenn
On 4/06/2014 9:50 AM, Nick Gilbert wrote:
At the first Leeton JoeyGlide we invented several turnpoints in areas
where there wasn't one handy - mainly for those 'funnel' type points
that you use for non-fixed tasks (ie. AAT) to get everyone coming from
the same direction. From memory I think they were named after
supporters of the contest - Mander, Shirley, Mason, etc.
Cheers,
Nick.
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Tim Shirley <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
"send not to know for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee."
That was written 500 years ago. He wasn't wrong.
We have retained the tradition of having waypoints at geographic
features for three reasons. One is sheer laziness - we already
had locations of towns and silos. A second is psychological - we
like to say in the bar that we went to Hillston, rather than "i
went to a waypoint in the scrub west of Hillston". The third is
more practical and does have a safety implication - if you are
heading for a town you can see it out of the window, and don't
have to keep referring to an instrument on the panel. None of
these are showstoppers if change is seen as necessary.
Cheers
/Tim Shirley/
/tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare/
On 04/06/2014 09:03, Mike Timbrell wrote:
You mean we should make changes because someone in Poland gets
beaned by a piece of wreckage?
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*Matthew Scutter
*Sent:* Wednesday, 4 June 2014 8:15 AM
*To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
*Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Liability to public.
Turnpoints are usually over populated areas such as towns.
Turnpoints are naturally an area of higher collision risk because
of converging headings.
Pilots tend to outland/get low near turnpoints because of tunnel
vision or trying round the turnpoints efficiently in high wind.
Perhaps turnpoints shouldn't be over populated areas/landmarks in
competitions in this age of GPS navigation?
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Derek Ruddock
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Lookout, lookout, lookout...
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Of *Christopher McDonnell
*Sent:* Monday, 2 June 2014 6:52 PM
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* [Aus-soaring] Liability to public.
http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/172564,Pilot-killed-in-glider-tournament
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