I made the existing arrangements with Brian Bose, then head of the Aviation
Department BOM PERTH, for this information to be made accessible to
Internode. Brian had his technical people talk with Internode and that was
the end of my involvement.

I do remember that this was not a free service at that time as it did not
meet the criteria for the then published free data set like the historical
free weather issued for fishermen or the media outlets to inform the public
what their day might be like. This was at a time when BOM were directed to
embrace the "user pay philosophy." I think the reason being Weatherzone and
the  NZ BOM were otherwise likely to push our BOM out of the way with an
arguably better service while using the Bureau's own data?

I had earlier tried to argue why we as tax payers should have to wait for
our time critical gliding information to come via the University of Wyoming
whom pressumably got their data free from the Australian tax payer.

I think Brian then managed to get us some time by piggy backing us to an
existing "client". I didn't want to know the details and perhaps Brian
wouldn't have any recollection of this now;-)

Regardless, I believe we got a good free service from BOM, a SA gliding
enthusiest who wrote the original gliding friendly programme (sorry, forget
your name but in the acknowledgements on the Internode site) and of course
Internode for setting all this up to sound the BOM every few minutes to get
the latest data, massage that data so we might understand it and then make
it available free. A truly collaborative effort.

I don't know where we can reasonably expect to go from here given this
history.

Kind regards,
Daryl
On 20 Aug 2014 15:48, "Mike Borgelt" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  How does the timing of the latest chart compare with simply getting it
> here?
>
>  http://www.bom.gov.au/aviation/observations/aerological-diagrams/
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> At 04:49 PM 20/08/2014, you wrote:
>
> G’day.
>
> I’ve recently received email from the Bureau of Meteorology to say that
> the data feed they’ve historically provided to make
> http://slash.dotat.org/cgi-bin/atmos work will, in future, cost $1125 per
> annum.
>
> Or, more to the point:  The data itself will continue to be free, but
> there’s a $1125 per annum fee to be a registered user of it.
>
> I can get similar data at no cost from University of Wyoming’s Upper Air
> Project.  In my experience, the sounding data from there is delayed by an
> hour or so, because they get it from the BoM too, then process it before
> they make it available.
>
> I see a non-trivial number of HTTP server hits on my website, so I know
> people are still using the facility. But server hits don’t tell me if
> they’re getting value out of it.
>
> So:  Is it still useful?
>
> My options, as I see them, are:
>
> 1.  Pay BoM,
> 2.  Refactor the code to fetch from UoW, and accept that it’ll run a
> little bit late; or
> 3.  Shut down the site.
>
> Currently leaning towards (2), but nobody is getting value out of it then
> (3) is clearly my path of least resistance.
>
> Thoughts, comments, requests?
>
>   - mark
>
>
>
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