Were there any Puchaz spin fatalities in Australia? I know that DDSC used
them for spin training from mid nineties without an incident.

Cheers

Paul
On Dec 28, 2014 1:32 PM, "Daryl Mackay" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> Fear of manoeuvring when low level might have an inexperienced pilot over
> ruddering the turn. This pro-spin cross control in low level turbulent air
> (higher "g" transients) can certainly drive one into an incipient spin.
> Coupled with lack of spin currency hightening a natural fear when pointing
> at the ground at such low heights and perhaps driving one to pull back on
> the stick. We certainly see similar response in many other types of
> accidents where clear evidence proves pilot error. (Passenger airliners
> spin in too and there is clear "black box" evidence of this.) Also, at BSS
> we had the chance to observe back  seat video of a wings level sideways
> landing into a soft sandy paddock where the yaw string was at right angle
> to the longitudinal axis. The low hours pilot was evidently still trying to
> turn the ACFT with rudder alone. The scooping action shown by the wheel
> track confirmed the video. So there is enough evidence that pilots react
> adversely under pressure.
> In any case, to an experienced witness on the ground,  we sometimes get a
> pretty good idea if the correct anti-spin recovery was initiated.
> With reference to an earlier comment.
> I spoke to one of the instructors who had the near accident in a Puchacz
> at Beverley. He told me they were "experimenting" with the spin by holding
> in the anti-spin controls held in after recovery to check entry
> characteristics for the opposite direction. My understanding was that doing
> this over the hills to the west of the field with AFLD QFE set on the
> altimeters complicating the situation. In any case they recovered from the
> spin but it was a harrowing experence at this low height recovery.
> In any case, it was not a required JAR 22 manoeuvre for the manufacturer
> to run, a Flight Manual procedure, a GFA procedure and the height was a
> further consideration. So this was (in my opinion) an ad hoc test flight
> that went wrong for the pilots. Luckily they still made a recovery from the
> subsequent spin all be it to a landing on higher ground than expected.
> Apologies to the other pilot whom I have not spoken to about this incident.
> We certainly still spin the Puchacz without restriction at BSS. (Obviously
> with no part of the manoeuvre planned below 1000ft height as required for
> all ACFT) So you can appreciate we have no issue with our Puchacz and I
> haven't had anyone request they use another ACFT for the required training
> or checking.
> The remaining issue is currency to remove the fear and at BSS, not the
> ACFT.
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