Problem with spot is that you don't get feedback if your message was
successfully received.
I am not sure if this is the case with InReach.

Here is an interesting tracker project:

http://wiki.glidernet.org/

http://wiki.glidernet.org/list-of-receivers#toc2

http://wiki.glidernet.org/ogn-tracker#toc6

I've been following this for a while now. The low cost, low current draw
tracker is neat.

However: I want to be seen on other aircraft's tcas and I would like to be
able to see other aircraft (other than gliders) that already use "tracking"
via ADSB.

A multi-frequency solution seems like a good idea. 1090, 9xx, 2.4Gh, 3G, 4G
etc.
Erich


On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Matt Gage <[email protected]>
wrote:

> As long as you think about what you need and check ability against need
> you many options could work well.
>
> In practice, I’ve seen SPOT fail to deliver a help message, and worse, the
> pilot had no idea this had happened. Without SPOT and no phone reception,
> first option is glider chat frequencies, then area frequency, then 121.5,
> and at least you know that you got through.
>
> I’ve also seen 3G/4G routinely provide tracking down to below 500’ AGL in
> the full comp task area from Narromine. If they don’t re-appear within 30
> minutes, either the phone went flat, or they landed, and using google maps
> (which is how the trackers usually display this anyway), you can probably
> pick the paddock they landed in
>
> InReach sounds like a good improvement all round though.
>
>
>
> On 29 May 2015, at 8:01 , Michael Zupanc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Watch the coverage....
> There are quite a number of different personal locator devices on the
> market and they use different satellite phone systems, with different
> coverage areas.
>
> In terms of satellite communication systems, Thuraya and Inmarsat use
> Geostationary satelites, while Iridium uses Polar Low Earth Orbiting
> satellite constellations.
>
> Spot trackers seem to be very popular, but probably just because they are
> one of the older brands, but Spot does not have global coverage. Anyone
> wishing to use such a device should do some homework and determine exactly
> what coverage they require as the Systems which use geostationary
> satellites are typically cheaper. But a cheap phone is rather useless if it
> doesn't work where you are :-)...
>
>
>
> On 28/05/2015 7:29 PM, Matthew Scutter wrote:
>
> Since we're going down this tangent, there's a new kid on the sat tracking
> block - Delorme's InReach.
> Offers higher update frequencies than SPOT's, *two* way messaging (this is
> the killer feature), and I believe they also send altitude information,
> unlike the SPOT's.
> Roughly twice the cost though.
>
>  I think this one is especially cool, includes a solar panel -
> http://www.inreachdelorme.com/product-info/inreachse_extreme_bundle.php
>
>  I haven't used one myself but I have heard very good things from pilots
> overseas.
> Do check of the coverage maps for both SPOT and InReach, they're not
> actually global (ask the pilots in Namibia...)
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Mark Newton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 28 May 2015, at 4:25 pm, Mike Borgelt <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It has been pointed out to me that all we really need is the cellphone
>> network.
>> > Implement flight tracking for everyone using the web via the cellphone
>> 3 or 4G and receive the information on tracked aircraft via the same
>> method. Essentially unlimited range and 15 second updates are plenty at
>> longer ranges.
>> > AMSA are about to implement the tracking via AvPlan  so you can let
>> them know you'll be doing this. If you don't show up it will help the
>> search.
>>
>> That’s essentially what Spot Trackers are: Hockey-pucks that know how to
>> send Iridium satphone SMSs, so they can work anywhere, including where
>> terrestrial cellphones aren’t.
>>
>>   - mark
>>
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