my opinion only..

David is NOW giving you a view into the back room of the sausage factory as 
AusNOG becomes a true NFP with an established CLG. I think it has always been 
"a thing" 😉

Cheers,
Terry
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> On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:24 pm, Shane Short <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Terry,
> 
> Having dealt extensively with multinational sponsors in the past, I 
> understand where this is coming from— however there’s always a line of 
> reason. I am however concerned that this hasn’t been an issue for a very long 
> time now and it’s now suddenly come out of the blue, with little warning 
> prior to the event and with a very very vague explanation.
> 
> Given that AusNOG has historically had no issue attracting sponsors, if a 
> sponsor is now suddenly unhappy with what’s been an established behaviour 
> since inception, maybe their spot can be offered to someone who’s more 
> understanding of the industry dynamic.
> 
> -Shane
> 
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 3:13 pm, Terry Manderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brendan,
>> 
>> This will sound glib but having dealt with "sponsors" in & for other forums 
>> there is often an implicit ROI for those sponsors. Yes, while community is 
>> important, they are backed by corporate entities. Those entities want to 
>> know what is "in it for them". I've not as yet seen any of the entities say 
>> "oh, it's completely ok for my competitors to be able to share their merch 
>> at the event even though I paid up front to be there". 
>> 
>> If you would like you, or your employer to pay 100% of the per attendee fee 
>> to attend + flights + accomodation please pass on that info to David as a 
>> likely future sponsor.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Terry
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>> 
>>>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 2:56 pm, Brendan Halley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> Very disappointed to hear this.
>>> 
>>> Has removing this sponsor and letting one of the many companies willing to 
>>> sponsor take their place? From what I understand there are quite a few big 
>>> names willing to take a sponsorship slot.
>>> 
>>> It shouldn't just be about what a sponsor wants when we're talking about an 
>>> event built around an industry that functions more like a community.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Brendan
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 2:21 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Afternoon all,
>>>> 
>>>> We've been contacted by one of the sponsors of our conference in April 
>>>> about companies who aren't sponsors handing out promotional material, in 
>>>> particular branded t-shirts etc.  While everyone likes getting a bag full 
>>>> of free merch, we ask that attendees respect the financial commitment that 
>>>> our sponsors make towards funding the conference.  They cover almost half 
>>>> the cost and in return they get the right to promote themselves to all of 
>>>> you who attend.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are not a sponsor please do not distribute swag to delegates at the 
>>>> conference.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> David, on behalf of the Board
>>>> ...
>>>> 
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