Hi Tez,

It would be handy if the current board updated the web site to reflect some of this stuff. According to it, your still a board member.  Obviously not your fault but for any of the new board members whomever they may be it would be nice to have accurate and updated info out there.

Matt



On 2/8/2022 9:16 pm, Terry Manderson wrote:
Hi Robert,

"A company limited by guarantee with a constitution that protects members"

Yes, I was involved in that part before resigning as a board member - 11+ years 
was really quite enough and good governance suggests I should!! (and I have a 
few other fish to fry ;)

"with directors holding directors insurance?" That is up to the AusNOG Inc 
board to answer.

Of course there are other governance questions that should also be considered. 
Many of those are about what membership entails and a member's responsibility 
and liability might be, and also the liability of the board. I don't mean to 
disparage that move at all, I think it's a good one! - clarity is needed non 
the less and I'm sure David will provide that.

I can only give my "thumbs up" to the move from a AusNOG PTY LTD to a AusNOG 
Inc (CLG).

Cheers
Terry
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On 2 Aug 2022, at 6:46 pm, Robert Hudson <[email protected]> wrote:

A company limited by guarantee with a constitution that protects members, with 
directors holding directors insurance?

On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 5:45 pm Terry Manderson, <[email protected]> wrote:
As i said,

Ausnog is now a membership based CLG and true NFP (members are important) 
versus a PTY LTD with a Board holding the fiscal responsibility the risk and 
the outcome.

Cheers,
Terry
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On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:42 pm, Shane Short <[email protected]> wrote:

If it’s always been a thing; what’s the catalyst for this sudden change in 
rules?

I’ve had to tell *massive* multinational companies that no— you can’t be the 
only type of vendor at the event and no we won’t change our logo from red 
because that’s your competitions’s colour.

I’m confident that if this particular sponsor isn’t happy to play ball, someone 
else will.

-Shane

On 2 Aug 2022, at 3:38 pm, Terry Manderson <[email protected]> wrote:

my opinion only..

David is NOW giving you a view into the back room of the sausage factory as AusNOG 
becomes a true NFP with an established CLG. I think it has always been "a 
thing" 😉

Cheers,
Terry
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On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:24 pm, Shane Short <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Terry,

Having dealt extensively with multinational sponsors in the past, I understand 
where this is coming from— however there’s always a line of reason. I am 
however concerned that this hasn’t been an issue for a very long time now and 
it’s now suddenly come out of the blue, with little warning prior to the event 
and with a very very vague explanation.

Given that AusNOG has historically had no issue attracting sponsors, if a 
sponsor is now suddenly unhappy with what’s been an established behaviour since 
inception, maybe their spot can be offered to someone who’s more understanding 
of the industry dynamic.

-Shane


On 2 Aug 2022, at 3:13 pm, Terry Manderson <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Brendan,

This will sound glib but having dealt with "sponsors" in & for other forums there is often an 
implicit ROI for those sponsors. Yes, while community is important, they are backed by corporate entities. Those 
entities want to know what is "in it for them". I've not as yet seen any of the entities say "oh, 
it's completely ok for my competitors to be able to share their merch at the event even though I paid up front to 
be there".

If you would like you, or your employer to pay 100% of the per attendee fee to 
attend + flights + accomodation please pass on that info to David as a likely 
future sponsor.

Cheers,
Terry
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Mobile device, don't expect grammar.

On 2 Aug 2022, at 2:56 pm, Brendan Halley <[email protected]> wrote:


Hi David,

Very disappointed to hear this.

Has removing this sponsor and letting one of the many companies willing to 
sponsor take their place? From what I understand there are quite a few big 
names willing to take a sponsorship slot.

It shouldn't just be about what a sponsor wants when we're talking about an 
event built around an industry that functions more like a community.

Regards,
Brendan

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 2:21 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
Afternoon all,

We've been contacted by one of the sponsors of our conference in April about 
companies who aren't sponsors handing out promotional material, in particular 
branded t-shirts etc.  While everyone likes getting a bag full of free merch, 
we ask that attendees respect the financial commitment that our sponsors make 
towards funding the conference.  They cover almost half the cost and in return 
they get the right to promote themselves to all of you who attend.

If you are not a sponsor please do not distribute swag to delegates at the 
conference.


Regards,

David, on behalf of the Board
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