As i said, 

Ausnog is now a membership based CLG and true NFP (members are important) 
versus a PTY LTD with a Board holding the fiscal responsibility the risk and 
the outcome. 

Cheers,
Terry
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> On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:42 pm, Shane Short <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> If it’s always been a thing; what’s the catalyst for this sudden change in 
> rules?
> 
> I’ve had to tell *massive* multinational companies that no— you can’t be the 
> only type of vendor at the event and no we won’t change our logo from red 
> because that’s your competitions’s colour.
> 
> I’m confident that if this particular sponsor isn’t happy to play ball, 
> someone else will.
> 
> -Shane
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 3:38 pm, Terry Manderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> my opinion only..
>> 
>> David is NOW giving you a view into the back room of the sausage factory as 
>> AusNOG becomes a true NFP with an established CLG. I think it has always 
>> been "a thing" 😉
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Terry
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>>>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:24 pm, Shane Short <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Hi Terry,
>>> 
>>> Having dealt extensively with multinational sponsors in the past, I 
>>> understand where this is coming from— however there’s always a line of 
>>> reason. I am however concerned that this hasn’t been an issue for a very 
>>> long time now and it’s now suddenly come out of the blue, with little 
>>> warning prior to the event and with a very very vague explanation.
>>> 
>>> Given that AusNOG has historically had no issue attracting sponsors, if a 
>>> sponsor is now suddenly unhappy with what’s been an established behaviour 
>>> since inception, maybe their spot can be offered to someone who’s more 
>>> understanding of the industry dynamic.
>>> 
>>> -Shane
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 3:13 pm, Terry Manderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Brendan,
>>>> 
>>>> This will sound glib but having dealt with "sponsors" in & for other 
>>>> forums there is often an implicit ROI for those sponsors. Yes, while 
>>>> community is important, they are backed by corporate entities. Those 
>>>> entities want to know what is "in it for them". I've not as yet seen any 
>>>> of the entities say "oh, it's completely ok for my competitors to be able 
>>>> to share their merch at the event even though I paid up front to be 
>>>> there". 
>>>> 
>>>> If you would like you, or your employer to pay 100% of the per attendee 
>>>> fee to attend + flights + accomodation please pass on that info to David 
>>>> as a likely future sponsor.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Terry
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>>>>>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 2:56 pm, Brendan Halley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Very disappointed to hear this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has removing this sponsor and letting one of the many companies willing 
>>>>> to sponsor take their place? From what I understand there are quite a few 
>>>>> big names willing to take a sponsorship slot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It shouldn't just be about what a sponsor wants when we're talking about 
>>>>> an event built around an industry that functions more like a community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Brendan
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 2:21 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Afternoon all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We've been contacted by one of the sponsors of our conference in April 
>>>>>> about companies who aren't sponsors handing out promotional material, in 
>>>>>> particular branded t-shirts etc.  While everyone likes getting a bag 
>>>>>> full of free merch, we ask that attendees respect the financial 
>>>>>> commitment that our sponsors make towards funding the conference.  They 
>>>>>> cover almost half the cost and in return they get the right to promote 
>>>>>> themselves to all of you who attend.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you are not a sponsor please do not distribute swag to delegates at 
>>>>>> the conference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David, on behalf of the Board
>>>>>> ...
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