Hey Chad, That's a pretty general site you're pointing to.
Could you possibly be a bit more specific? Clicked through a couple of links on it but everything was very high level. As I noted elsewhere I am in SA but my employer is national so keeping across all this is never a bad thing. Cheers, Sam On Friday, 11 August 2017, Chad Kelly <c...@cpkws.com.au> wrote: > It comes under the Victorian Occupational Health and safety Act 2004 from > the bit of reading I did yesterday. > > https://www.worksafe.vic.gov.au/laws/ohs > > On 8/11/2017 10:17 AM, Jared Hirst wrote: > > Mark, > > Totally agree. I would just like to know what law Simon was referring too? > > Regards, > > Jared Hirst > Servers Australia Pty Ltd > Phone: +61 2 8115 8801 > Email: jared.hi...@serversaustralia.com.au > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jared.hi...@serversaustralia.com.au');> > ------------------------------ > *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net');> on > behalf of Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','new...@atdot.dotat.org');> > *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 4:54:10 AM > *To:* Nathan Brookfield > *Cc:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog@lists.ausnog.net');>; > ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net');>; Chad > Kelly > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] NextDC Melbourne - Scheduled Power Maintenance -, > 15th August > > As someone who has run colo facilities before: > > It should be made completely clear during customer onboarding that the > facility operator can temporarily shut down a power feed at any time. > Advance warning should be desirable but optional. > > If there is risk involved in doing that, it’s your job to mitigate it. The > facility operator doesn’t know which bits of equipment in your tenancy are > critical, and they’ve already told you to dual-feed where possible and use > a rack-mount ATS for single-corded equipment. > > Power work should be done during business hours, because it’s almost > impossible to get emergency support or source replacement equipment out of > hours. > > If it isn’t safe to take a power feed offline during business hours, then > you (the customer) have a design problem to solve. > > - mark > > > > > > On Aug 10, 2017, at 6:56 AM, Nathan Brookfield > <nathan.brookfi...@simtronic.com.au> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nathan.brookfi...@simtronic.com.au');> > wrote: > > > > Chad, > > > > That's all well and good but when you're paying a premium price for > services of this fashion you expect a certain level of service. There is a > risk no matter what when switching from power supplies taking extra load > they would not usually take as well as swing load issues with PDU's. > > > > I completely agree with your sentiment but the risk is not to be ignored > especially during those times. > > > > Kindest Regards, > > Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net');>] On > Behalf Of Chad Kelly > > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:54 PM > > To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog@lists.ausnog.net');>; > ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net');> > > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NextDC Melbourne - Scheduled Power Maintenance -, > 15th August > > > > > > > > On 8/10/2017 10:13 AM, ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net');> wrote: > >> From the latest update today, It appears that most of the works are > >> being postponed for the time being > >> > >> Not all devices within racks support 2 feeds and planning is involved > >> with these devices, which is why it is crucial to receive accurate > information about any pending outages or upgrades to the NextDC DataCentres > which affect services. > > If these services are mission critical then you really should have duel > PSU units, so that when one feed gets taken offline the equipment > automatically switches to the other feed. They won't just disconnect both > feeds at once because that would be stupid and if the entire DC was offline > for too much time then that would put the owners in a rather awkward > situation legally, as after say 8 or 10 hours of downtime it wouldn't be > good for the owners lets put it that way. > > If the single PSU units are a part of a customers co-located equipment > then really your terms of service agreement should exclude liability under > your maintenance clauses. > > I don't understand why anyone would be using single PSU equipment in a > DC environment now a days when you can buy refurbished servers that come > with two PSU as standard even when you buy them without raid. > > Also for anything that is really really mission critical you should have > it hosted in multiple datacentres anyway so if something stupid does happen > that you can't control you at least still have services online as the load > balanced services would just switch. > > Regards Chad. > > > > -- > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 5273 0246 > > Web www.cpkws.com.au > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AusNOG mailing list > > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net');> > > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > _______________________________________________ > > AusNOG mailing list > > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net');> > > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net');> > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > > -- > Chad Kelly > Manager > CPK Web Services > Phone 03 5273 0246 > Web www.cpkws.com.au > >
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