A beancounter must have realised they had lots of unused Australia -> US capacity and decided they wanted to make some profit from it.

On 16/05/18 09:29, Pieter Berkel wrote:
Fair -- but where does "bits we both end up paying for" fit into that spectrum?


On 16 May 2018 at 09:25, McDonald Richards <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    standard route policy: bits you pay me for > bits I get for free >
    bits I pay for.

    On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Pieter Berkel
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Matt and Gavin are right: this asymmetric routing seems to
        only impacts providers that buy transit from HE in SJC (TPG
        and Vocus being the two main ones I've noticed).  It would
        appear from the below post that HE policy is to preference
        transit over peering links (presuming that AS paths for both
        are the same length?):

        
https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=81&topicid=233763&page_no=2#2006292
        
<https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=81&topicid=233763&page_no=2#2006292>

        (Although I'm not quite sure how the reverse might break
        routing, it might break their business model?).  I guess it's
        up to Vocus & TPG to figure out how fix if it becomes a
        problem for them.

        Edwin: there is some merit to having a routable /48 to
        experiment with, not sure if Internode supply that sort of
        IPv6 subnet to ADSL customers?



        On 16 May 2018 at 09:05, Dave Browning <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            All good if on MegaIX SYD

            Tracing route to tserv1.syd1.he.net
            <http://tserv1.syd1.he.net> [216.218.142.50]
            over a maximum of 30 hops:

              1    <1 ms    <1 ms <1 ms
            vl666.cr01.b1.bne.qld.au.sentrian.net.au
            <http://vl666.cr01.b1.bne.qld.au.sentrian.net.au>
            [103.226.9.138]
            2    15 ms 16 ms
            
<https://maps.google.com/?q=2%C2%A0+%C2%A0+15+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+16+ms&entry=gmail&source=g>
 
              14 ms vl3.cr01.s1.syd.nsw.au.sentrian.net.au
            <http://vl3.cr01.s1.syd.nsw.au.sentrian.net.au>
            [103.226.9.245]
            
<https://maps.google.com/?q=245%5D+%0D%0A%C2%A0+3%C2%A0+%C2%A0+13+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+16+ms&entry=gmail&source=g>
              3    13 ms    16 ms    14 ms as6939.sydney.megaport.com
            <http://as6939.sydney.megaport.com> [103.26.68.236]
            4    12 ms 19 ms
            
<https://maps.google.com/?q=4%C2%A0+%C2%A0+12+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+19+ms&entry=gmail&source=g>
 
              15 ms tserv1.syd1.he.net <http://tserv1.syd1.he.net>
            [216.218.142.50]

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            P 1300 791 678
            Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064
            
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