Hi Bradley, They seemed entirely uninterested in solving their lack of domestic GoF routes when I challenged them on this topic when they tried to sell me IP transit a few months back.
My guess is they built out their AU presence on the back of a few lucrative L2 transport customers, and are basically just fishing for any poor suckers that want to pick up some cheap international-only transit until they further expand their AU footprint (and GoF routing). Regards, Benoit Page-Guitard Network Engineer Digital Pacific Group Phone: 1300 MY HOST (694 678) Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.digitalpacific.com.au On 15 May 2018 at 19:59, Bradley Amm <[email protected]> wrote: > So I guess its unlikely that HE will fix the routing to Telstra, Optus, > AAPT anytime soon. > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Nick Stallman <[email protected]> > Date: 16/5/18 7:32 am (GMT+08:00) > To: Pieter Berkel <[email protected]>, McDonald Richards < > [email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke) > > A beancounter must have realised they had lots of unused Australia -> US > capacity and decided they wanted to make some profit from it. > > On 16/05/18 09:29, Pieter Berkel wrote: > > Fair -- but where does "bits we both end up paying for" fit into that > spectrum? > > > On 16 May 2018 at 09:25, McDonald Richards <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> standard route policy: bits you pay me for > bits I get for free > bits I >> pay for. >> >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Pieter Berkel <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Matt and Gavin are right: this asymmetric routing seems to only impacts >>> providers that buy transit from HE in SJC (TPG and Vocus being the two main >>> ones I've noticed). It would appear from the below post that HE policy is >>> to preference transit over peering links (presuming that AS paths for both >>> are the same length?): >>> >>> https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=81&topicid=233 >>> 763&page_no=2#2006292 >>> >>> (Although I'm not quite sure how the reverse might break routing, it >>> might break their business model?). I guess it's up to Vocus & TPG to >>> figure out how fix if it becomes a problem for them. >>> >>> Edwin: there is some merit to having a routable /48 to experiment with, >>> not sure if Internode supply that sort of IPv6 subnet to ADSL customers? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 16 May 2018 at 09:05, Dave Browning <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> All good if on MegaIX SYD >>>> >>>> Tracing route to tserv1.syd1.he.net [216.218.142.50] >>>> over a maximum of 30 hops: >>>> >>>> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms vl666.cr01.b1.bne.qld.au.sentr >>>> ian.net.au [103.226.9.138] >>>> 2 15 ms 16 ms >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2%C2%A0+%C2%A0+15+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+16+ms&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> 14 ms vl3.cr01.s1.syd.nsw.au.sentrian.net.au [103.226.9.245] >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=245%5D+%0D%0A%C2%A0+3%C2%A0+%C2%A0+13+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+16+ms&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> 3 13 ms 16 ms 14 ms as6939.sydney.megaport.com >>>> [103.26.68.236] >>>> 4 12 ms 19 ms >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=4%C2%A0+%C2%A0+12+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+19+ms&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> 15 ms tserv1.syd1.he.net [216.218.142.50] >>>> >>>> Dave Browning | Network Engineer >>>> P 1300 791 678 >>>> Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=12+Railway+Tce,+Milton+QLD+4064&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AusNOG mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>> >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing > [email protected]http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > > -- > Nick Stallman > Technical Director > [image: Email] [email protected] > [image: Phone] 02 8039 6820 <0280396820> > [image: Website] www.agentpoint.com.au > [image: Agentpoint] <https://www.agentpoint.com.au/> > [image: Netpoint] <https://netpoint.group/> > Level 3, 100 Harris Street, Pyrmont NSW 2009 [image: Facebook] > <https://www.facebook.com/agentpoint/> [image: Twitter] > <https://twitter.com/agentpoint> [image: Instagram] > <https://www.instagram.com/Agentpoint/> [image: Linkedin] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/agentpoint-pty-ltd> > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > >
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