So I guess its unlikely that HE will fix the routing to Telstra, Optus, AAPT anytime soon.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: Nick Stallman <[email protected]> Date: 16/5/18 7:32 am (GMT+08:00) To: Pieter Berkel <[email protected]>, McDonald Richards < [email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke) A beancounter must have realised they had lots of unused Australia -> US capacity and decided they wanted to make some profit from it. On 16/05/18 09:29, Pieter Berkel wrote: Fair -- but where does "bits we both end up paying for" fit into that spectrum? On 16 May 2018 at 09:25, McDonald Richards <[email protected]> wrote: > standard route policy: bits you pay me for > bits I get for free > bits I > pay for. > > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Pieter Berkel <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Matt and Gavin are right: this asymmetric routing seems to only impacts >> providers that buy transit from HE in SJC (TPG and Vocus being the two main >> ones I've noticed). It would appear from the below post that HE policy is >> to preference transit over peering links (presuming that AS paths for both >> are the same length?): >> >> https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=81&topicid=233 >> 763&page_no=2#2006292 >> >> (Although I'm not quite sure how the reverse might break routing, it >> might break their business model?). I guess it's up to Vocus & TPG to >> figure out how fix if it becomes a problem for them. >> >> Edwin: there is some merit to having a routable /48 to experiment with, >> not sure if Internode supply that sort of IPv6 subnet to ADSL customers? >> >> >> >> On 16 May 2018 at 09:05, Dave Browning <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> All good if on MegaIX SYD >>> >>> Tracing route to tserv1.syd1.he.net [216.218.142.50] >>> over a maximum of 30 hops: >>> >>> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms vl666.cr01.b1.bne.qld.au.sentrian.net.au >>> [103.226.9.138] >>> 2 15 ms 16 ms >>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2%C2%A0+%C2%A0+15+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+16+ms&entry=gmail&source=g> >>> 14 ms vl3.cr01.s1.syd.nsw.au.sentrian.net.au [103.226.9.245] >>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=245%5D+%0D%0A%C2%A0+3%C2%A0+%C2%A0+13+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+16+ms&entry=gmail&source=g> >>> 3 13 ms 16 ms 14 ms as6939.sydney.megaport.com >>> [103.26.68.236] >>> 4 12 ms 19 ms >>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=4%C2%A0+%C2%A0+12+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+19+ms&entry=gmail&source=g> >>> 15 ms tserv1.syd1.he.net [216.218.142.50] >>> >>> Dave Browning | Network Engineer >>> P 1300 791 678 >>> Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 >>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=12+Railway+Tce,+Milton+QLD+4064&entry=gmail&source=g> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AusNOG mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> >> > _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing [email protected]http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Nick Stallman Technical Director [image: Email] [email protected] [image: Phone] 02 8039 6820 <0280396820> [image: Website] www.agentpoint.com.au [image: Agentpoint] <https://www.agentpoint.com.au/> [image: Netpoint] <https://netpoint.group/> Level 3, 100 Harris Street, Pyrmont NSW 2009 [image: Facebook] <https://www.facebook.com/agentpoint/> [image: Twitter] <https://twitter.com/agentpoint> [image: Instagram] <https://www.instagram.com/Agentpoint/> [image: Linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/agentpoint-pty-ltd>
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