Dual sim, VoIP app on the phone, then tell everyone to call the number linked to the VoIP number *shrug* not hard, just a pain
Sent from my iPad > On 24 May 2018, at 1:18 pm, Christopher Hawker <[email protected]> > wrote: > > That is where a mobile number on a SIP service would come in useful, 2 > providers for data failover, same number no matter which network. > > CH. > From: AusNOG <[email protected]> on behalf of Bradley Amm > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:06:17 PM > To: Tony Miles; Mark Currie > Cc: <,[email protected]>, > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again? > > Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If that sims > network provider is down you still wont get calls to that number. > > You can still make calls > > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tony Miles <[email protected]> > Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00) > To: Mark Currie <[email protected]> > Cc: "<,[email protected]>," <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again? > > Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :) > > On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie" <[email protected]> wrote: > There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-) > > Mark > > > > From: AusNOG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bradley Amm > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again? > > > > It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a company comes > up with a product that can roam between all networks > > > > > > From: AusNOG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brenden > Cruikshank > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again? > > > > I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my choice to use > Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the oncall and I selected > Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network. It’s not just coverage but > actually reliable data speeds. > > > > Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does this mean my > phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another network for 000 / > 112??? I was unable to make outbound calls and my incoming calls all went to > voicemail. My guess is I would be unable to call 000/112 and in an emergency > hopefully someone is on another carrier > > > > This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra was out > on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the Telstra outage > have affected emergency services once they arrived?? > > > > https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-20180522-p4zgo5.html > > > > > Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected a small > number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation wide. The outages > have been higher then usual over the last 6 months but I’ve got 18 months > left on my contact. > > > > At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or data > outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or longer. Business > is in contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted as a normal thing and > phones are too hard so “thinking about what to do about it” isn’t as simple > as that. (We did get a second internet service so I guess we did think about > it on the data side). > > > > On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, it’s had 100% > uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology just seems so much more > reliable. > > > > Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo plan. > It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do! > > https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236 > > > > And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane with > minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton <[email protected]> wrote: > > If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these Telstra outages (or > any of their provider outages really) and getting the ball rolling on what to > do about it..... well, not good. > > > > The smallest business has the ability, even if not the > intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely on and the > level of continuity they require. Literally even just reading this thread > should be enough to raise the appropriate questions, such as "why do you > think something like "they pay for a service. It probably isn't the cheapest, > but they pay for it anyhow because the name brings an element of trust" means > zero downtime?" > > > > It is interesting that there has been a shift between services you could > totally rely on (say Telstra in the 90s), to those you can't even with a > tight SLA (Telstra now..), but the reality is those considering a bulletproof > system in the 90s still had a backup incase of a Telstra outage. > > > > But back to the OP, Telstra dropping 000 should be hounded like no tomorrow. > People think power gas is essential services, but 000 is actually essential. > Is anyone monitoring the ACMA or whoever responses to these events and the > lapsing of SLAs? > > > > On 22 May 2018 at 22:22, Karen Hargreave <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ok, devils advocate side to the rant.. > > > > Firstly, let me say that I am not against your idea in the sense that there > is definitely a need for small businesses to be more agile. > > > > Ok, that said. Yes, one could think that a small business could be more > agile, but then, they pay for a service. It probably isn't the cheapest, but > they pay for it anyhow because the name brings an element of trust. Small > businesses generally don't have the ability to reach into a draw and pick up > a sim from another provider just to keep them on the air. Even if they can, > how do they tell their customers of a phone number change? Who do they tell? > Yes, a solution could involve other types of voice services to be contacted > on, but then there is the question, if part of what they are paying for is > trust in the brand, then well... you know where I am going. > > > > Oh, and food for thought, almost literally... try working at a food delivery > place when the competitor has no eftpos... yes, they do lose money :) and > customers :) > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 22 May 2018, at 9:49 pm, Jason Leschnik <[email protected]> wrote: > > The Media and the Public's response to this is a little disheartening. Before > I got into the world of networking I'd be part of the masses on WhingePool > ragging on the ISPs. The more I see behind the curtain of the industry I > sympathise that the problems we face are large and complex. Most people > struggle to perform simple "adult" functions but yet believe that a large > insanely complex organisation with many moving parts isn't just as > potentially flawed is baffling. So many comments on Twitter with business > owners blaming Telstra for their "insane financial loss" due to the outage > but in saying that, isn't their lack of BCP nothing more than the same thing > Telstra saw if not worse? A small company is much more agile to create a > simple BCP for events like this. > > > > /Rant > > > > On 21 May 2018 at 10:37, Ross Wheeler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm seeing (mobile) services - voice and data - down or intermittent in > multiple areas for the last 40 minutes or so. > > Can't find anything mentioned about it - am I just lucky enough to have a > significant proportion of my telstra services go titsup all together, or is > there some wider issue? > > (None of my services with other carriers seem affected at this stage). > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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